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POPA 07-25-2007 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by RightSeatDude (Post 202152)
I couldn't agree more. I've been at Mesa over a year and half. I've pretty much had it and will be moving on very soon. EVERY SINGLE CAPTAIN I have spoken to wishes they had moved on to another regional as an FO.

DON'T GO TO MESA. YOU WILL REGRET IT.

I would just like to point out that it doesn't matter if you called for that wheelchair or not; Ops isn't going to call for it either way.

SharkAir 07-25-2007 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Airborne (Post 201928)
Sorry SharkAir, maybe I have been conditioned to dislike airline management (it wasn't always that way). It has just been my experience that management will shake your hand with their right hand while holding a knife in left. About 5 years ago I got out of the Army and truly respected the officers and leadership appointed over me, the greatest leadership I have ever had, then got out and received the cold reality of 121 airline management that would stab their mother, lie, cheat and darn near due anything to make more money and get that next bonus or promotion.
Maybe I have had just a few bad experiences but but forgive me for not just throwing blind trust towards them anymore.:o

Which airline was that?


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 202160)
Enjoy your career at GoJet, big guy.

Come on, even I know that GoJet isn't good for me, my family, or pretty much anyone.

Airborne 07-25-2007 03:19 PM

I have worked at few as a ramper, crew scheduler and dispatcher. Trust me seeing what really goes on at airline headquarters will make you sick. That why I am desperately trying to make the switch to a pilot career. At least then I don't have to see the corruption ever day going to work. Also everyone here needs to be careful about talking about management in detail because I bet some management types read these forums also.
Dont get me wrong there are the good ones but also the bad ones.

SharkAir 07-25-2007 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Airborne (Post 202233)
Also everyone here needs to be careful about talking about management in detail because I bet some management types read these forums also.
Dont get me wrong there are the good one but also the bad ones.

I'm in good shape then. I'm kind of a management apologist.

ExperimentalAB 07-25-2007 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 202299)
I'm in good shape then. I'm kind of a management apologist.

LoL That's certainly a way to put it ;-)

N2rotation 07-26-2007 06:48 PM

its hard to explain how bad mesa is until you experience it. just take everyone's word for it.

beebopbogo 07-31-2007 09:04 PM

As a Mesa pilot, I say go for it! "Apply" pretty much means "Get Hired." We need pilots so bad you'll get hired as long as you breathe (and have 500 total time and 50 multi - they say 100 multi, but my sim partner only had 1000/50). But yeah, once you're in, get out. All you need is a couple hundred hours in the CRJ and options open up everywhere.
As a perfect example, my ground school buddy got hired for Mesa and flew about 3 months. He acquired about 240 hours in the CRJ, which put him way above the flight instructor applicants, and applied to Colgan. He was immediately hired and put into the EMB-170 (wing mounted engines, auto-throttle, look it up). Sweet deal for him, if you ask me.

Personally, I'm flying 20 hours per month in Hawaii with a water-proof beeper and can't make myself move away... Surfing is addicting :)

JetJock16 07-31-2007 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by beebopbogo (Post 206477)
As a Mesa pilot, I say go for it! "Apply" pretty much means "Get Hired." We need pilots so bad you'll get hired as long as you breathe (and have 500 total time and 50 multi - they say 100 multi, but my sim partner only had 1000/50). But yeah, once you're in, get out. All you need is a couple hundred hours in the CRJ and options open up everywhere.
As a perfect example, my ground school buddy got hired for Mesa and flew about 3 months. He acquired about 240 hours in the CRJ, which put him way above the flight instructor applicants, and applied to Colgan. He was immediately hired and put into the EMB-170 (wing mounted engines, auto-throttle, look it up). Sweet deal for him, if you ask me.

Personally, I'm flying 20 hours per month in Hawaii with a water-proof beeper and can't make myself move away... Surfing is addicting :)

Not bad if Colgan flew EMB-170's:eek:. Actually they fly Saabs, 1900's and have orders for Q400's but NO EMB's. Not even their new parent company fly’s or has them on order. I think RAH (in the US) is the only company currently operating EMB-170’s, others have orders but I don’t think anyone has taken delivery.

cfii2007 08-01-2007 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by beebopbogo (Post 206477)
As a Mesa pilot, I say go for it! "Apply" pretty much means "Get Hired." We need pilots so bad you'll get hired as long as you breathe (and have 500 total time and 50 multi - they say 100 multi, but my sim partner only had 1000/50). But yeah, once you're in, get out. All you need is a couple hundred hours in the CRJ and options open up everywhere.
As a perfect example, my ground school buddy got hired for Mesa and flew about 3 months. He acquired about 240 hours in the CRJ, which put him way above the flight instructor applicants, and applied to Colgan. He was immediately hired and put into the EMB-170 (wing mounted engines, auto-throttle, look it up). Sweet deal for him, if you ask me.

Personally, I'm flying 20 hours per month in Hawaii with a water-proof beeper and can't make myself move away... Surfing is addicting :)

How much did it cost to break his training contract?

SaltyDog 08-01-2007 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by beebopbogo (Post 206477)
As a Mesa pilot, I say go for it! "Apply" pretty much means "Get Hired." We need pilots so bad you'll get hired as long as you breathe (and have 500 total time and 50 multi - they say 100 multi, but my sim partner only had 1000/50). But yeah, once you're in, get out. All you need is a couple hundred hours in the CRJ and options open up everywhere.
As a perfect example, my ground school buddy got hired for Mesa and flew about 3 months. He acquired about 240 hours in the CRJ, which put him way above the flight instructor applicants, and applied to Colgan. He was immediately hired and put into the EMB-170 (wing mounted engines, auto-throttle, look it up). Sweet deal for him, if you ask me.

Personally, I'm flying 20 hours per month in Hawaii with a water-proof beeper and can't make myself move away... Surfing is addicting :)

Funny reading your post. My bro got furloughed from Island Air after JO moved into the market. Glad you enjoy HI, he had to move back to the mainland. I worked for JO once, his only thought about pilots is to charge them PFT when he can, pay them as little as he can, and get rid of a pilot before they want more out of the deal. Wasn't at Mesa though. This market must really irritate him. Can't do PFT :D Glad your bud dropped the JO on JO


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