So how did all this work out for you..... 4-5 years later?
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I am going to look at the numbers for 2011, failing that 2010. I believe the originally posted article said something about 878 million projected pax in 2011.
And whatever happend to good ol' Saabaroowski? Or should I say Joeymeatballs? :) Ok, so the data I found said 710 million total enplanements (versus 698 million commercial) in 2000. I guess what I am looking at also includes GA. None-the-less, total enplanements for 2010 were 713 million. Whoop-de-freakin'-do. I think they missed their 26% growth by 2011 mark. To be fair, I can only get 2010 data, according to what I read 2011 data will be out this JULY. Yikes. And I was looking at total enplanements, the article was for commercial. I believe GA enplanements added slightly over 10 million to that figure, so still a small, small percentage, and therefore a 26% growth--my foot! May I posit that "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics" should exchange the word statistics for projections? Final edit, To be fair the September 11th attacks had not happened yet, and I imagine most prognoaticators were feeling bullish coming out of the 90's. |
FAA Numbers 2012
US Civil Airmen Statistics Table 17 Pilot--Total 89,640 StudentE 54,370 Recreational 52 Sport 528 Airplane Private 16,571 Commercial 8,651 Airline Transport 6,396 Rotorcraft (only) 2,892 Glider (only) 180 Flight Instructor Certificates 1/ 4,116 Instrument Ratings 2/ 9,643 8,651 NEW COMMERCIAL PILOTS. People still want to be pilots even at regional pay rates. Now I understand why regional airlines want pay cuts. If you think the regional airlines are going to have trouble please help me understand why. |
Originally Posted by Around123
(Post 1484515)
FAA Numbers 2012
US Civil Airmen Statistics Table 17 Pilot--Total 89,640 StudentE 54,370 Recreational 52 Sport 528 Airplane Private 16,571 Commercial 8,651 Airline Transport 6,396 Rotorcraft (only) 2,892 Glider (only) 180 Flight Instructor Certificates 1/ 4,116 Instrument Ratings 2/ 9,643 8,651 NEW COMMERCIAL PILOTS. People still want to be pilots even at regional pay rates. Now I understand why regional airlines want pay cuts. If you think the regional airlines are going to have trouble please help me understand why. |
Originally Posted by seafeye
(Post 1119458)
So how did all this work out for you..... 4-5 years later?
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Originally Posted by Scooter2525
(Post 1484520)
How many of those new commercial certs were for guys overseas?
I don't know, I would think most overseas pilots will not become instructors. Best guess about half. Flight Instructor Certificates 1/ 4,116 |
Originally Posted by Around123
(Post 1484515)
FAA Numbers 2012
US Civil Airmen Statistics Table 17 Pilot--Total 89,640 StudentE 54,370 Recreational 52 Sport 528 Airplane Private 16,571 Commercial 8,651 Airline Transport 6,396 Rotorcraft (only) 2,892 Glider (only) 180 Flight Instructor Certificates 1/ 4,116 Instrument Ratings 2/ 9,643 8,651 NEW COMMERCIAL PILOTS. People still want to be pilots even at regional pay rates. Now I understand why regional airlines want pay cuts. If you think the regional airlines are going to have trouble please help me understand why. |
i've heard that less than 600 CMEL were issued to students staying in the US and the rest were foreigners. You could make the same statement about the ATP certificates. But, the devil is in the details, the spike in ATP ratings is because of all the regional FO's being issued ATP's, these aren't "new" pilots
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Originally Posted by spaaks
(Post 1484685)
i've heard that less than 600 CMEL were issued to students staying in the US and the rest were foreigners. You could make the same statement about the ATP certificates. But, what the devil is in the details, the spike in ATP ratings is because of all the regional FO's being issued ATP's, these aren't "new" pilots
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Originally Posted by Scooter2525
(Post 1484689)
Wouldn't some ATPs be for foreigners that come here for flight safety and the like to go fly respective jets in their counties?
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