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320kts below 10,000' - legal?
Yeah yeah, you're all saying, "Pfff, what kind of question is that? 'Course it's not legal!" Well, what about inter-island Hawaii? Where exactly do the FARs apply? And for that matter, where does ICAO apply?
There is plenty of water outside the 12-mile offshore rule while flying between the islands. Here's a fun scenario: Ask for an early descent, blast down to 500', and buzz the cruise ships at 320 knots (slow down by 12 miles offshore, of course.) |
Originally Posted by beebopbogo
(Post 206460)
Yeah yeah, you're all saying, "Pfff, what kind of question is that? 'Course it's not legal!" Well, what about inter-island Hawaii? Where exactly do the FARs apply? And for that matter, where does ICAO apply?
There is plenty of water outside the 12-mile offshore rule while flying between the islands. Here's a fun scenario: Ask for an early descent, blast down to 500', and buzz the cruise ships at 320 knots (slow down by 12 miles offshore, of course.) |
sounds like fun
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Originally Posted by beebopbogo
(Post 206460)
Yeah yeah, you're all saying, "Pfff, what kind of question is that? 'Course it's not legal!" Well, what about inter-island Hawaii? Where exactly do the FARs apply? And for that matter, where does ICAO apply?
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500KIAS?
That's not much above flap speed. |
Arriving at JFK one morning around 6:45am NY Approach told us "You guys are out over the water, your the only one out there... keep the speed up" as we descended through 10,000. We kinda got what he meant, but since it wasn't a definite "you can maintain above 250 below 10" clearance on the tape we kept it to 250 just to be safe. When he handed us off he asked our speed and said "I was expecting 350 not 250." Of course I was kicking myself we didnt take advantage of that.
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The airspace should be clearly notated on your charts.
If you hit a bird at 320 or 335, it is going to leave a mark. |
Originally Posted by beebopbogo
(Post 206460)
There is plenty of water outside the 12-mile offshore rule while flying between the islands. Here's a fun scenario: Ask for an early descent, blast down to 500', and buzz the cruise ships at 320 knots (slow down by 12 miles offshore, of course.)
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Originally Posted by lear24
(Post 206540)
It's legal if you need it for operational necessity ;)
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It is quite common to exceed 250 in Europe. ATC will often approve it if you ask for "high speed." It's OK in Canada also if cleared above a certain altitude, (7000?). It says so on the SID.
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