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plasticpi 08-01-2007 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 206969)
apparently you never worked at COLGAN..................................


hehe... I think we all knew that was coming

blastboy 08-01-2007 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Clue32 (Post 206936)
One of the original threads addressing potential lateral moves involved a low time pilot going to a low pay "bad" regional in order to build the time necessary to go to a higher paying "better" regional. I was one that supported a lateral career move, but mentioned that it is a personal choice.

I maintain my position that lateral career moves, as long as they meet your needs can be good moves. Moving just to move is one thing, but at the end of the day you need to be happy about who you work for and how your quality of life is progressing.

Personally, I'm looking at taking a 60-75% (you read that right) paycut by going to the airlines in order to be home with my family more, fly more, and have control over my life and future. But I know that is a small, temporary sacrafice to be happier when I leave for work in the morning.

What one person does may look crazy to some one on the outside, when infact it is a well thought out, purposful decision.

I agree with Clue. Making a lateral move between regionals isn't necessarily "a lateral move"; everyone here would agree that going from Mesa, TSA or Pinnacle to Skywest, ExpressJet or Horizon is a step up, not a strafe to the same thing. The QOL, pay and general treatment of employees is far better than the other three.

SharkAir 08-01-2007 07:27 PM

Has anyone tried suing Pinnacle for false advertisement yet? The name Pinnacle implies the best, but apparently it ain't so.

LOW FUEL 08-01-2007 07:29 PM

Mesa to Xjet= me happy...

SharkyBN584 08-01-2007 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 207025)
Has anyone tried suing Pinnacle for false advertisement yet? The name Pinnacle implies the best, but apparently it ain't so.

I heard a story once about some CA suing the company and getting a settlement on the basis he would leave and keep his mouth shut. It came from a 9E FO but is probably an urban legend...

ToiletDuck 08-01-2007 09:15 PM

I don't understand going to another regional to start with. Do your homework then pick one you want to stay with then stay there. Why go to one you know you are going to hate? Just be a cfi or fly freight till you get what you want. Seniority is everything.

There were a couple TSA guys that were interviewed at RAH not very long ago. The chief pilot for CHQ came down on them pretty hard about abandoning their company. Said it showed something about their character and made them a higher liability to hire. I took a few new hires I saw at the hotel for XJT to lunch since I had a vehicle two days ago. He was one of them and was a nice and intelligent guy. They simply didn't like the fact that he hadn't shown loyalty.

Depending on how the person hiring you feels it could hurt.

N618FT 08-01-2007 09:31 PM

I'm new at this... I'm single, coming from a CFI job and am in no rush... I still don't understand what the big deal is... many companies have 1-2 year upgrades right now... so figure 3 years and hop on to a major. I'd figure you want to be in a position to upgrade as fast as possible and show consistent work ethic. I can understand if there's other factors like money, bases/commuting, family, etc that come into play... is that it? Am I in a position here that makes putting up with stuff easier?

ToiletDuck 08-01-2007 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by N618FT (Post 207105)
I'm new at this... I'm single, coming from a CFI job and am in no rush... I still don't understand what the big deal is... many companies have 1-2 year upgrades right now... so figure 3 years and hop on to a major. I'd figure you want to be in a position to upgrade as fast as possible and show consistent work ethic. I can understand if there's other factors like money, bases/commuting, family, etc that come into play... is that it? Am I in a position here that makes putting up with stuff easier?

Very much so. The first years are rough and being single makes the difference night and day. You need to decide where you want to be in a certain amount of time. I figured if I work hard I can move up the ladder and afford the type of life I want for myself and significant other. I was very close to getting engaged with someone. We had been living together for awhile. Then one day she told me she didn't want me to go fishing. That she wanted me to stay with her instead. Told me she wanted me to "prove" how much I loved her. I figured she should already know so I took a taxi cab 115 miles back to my truck and have never talked to her since. I could only imagine what she would demand of me due to being gone for my career. In order to have a family I need to be able to support them. In order to fish I need to be able to support her habits too.

Things for me are like a band-aid. End them quickly. If not I knew I wouldn't have had the willpower to do it later and I just know I would have ended up like the TONS of other guys I saw get dragged down by there relationships. Some make it happen but I couldn't.

Slice 08-01-2007 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 207096)
I don't understand going to another regional to start with. Do your homework then pick one you want to stay with then stay there. Why go to one you know you are going to hate? Just be a cfi or fly freight till you get what you want. Seniority is everything.


Depending on how the person hiring you feels it could hurt.

Duck, that's called work and it's a 4 letter word. According to the up and coming masses, you're a sucker for taking the 'long' road.:rolleyes:

dojetdriver 08-01-2007 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 207096)
I don't understand going to another regional to start with. Do your homework then pick one you want to stay with then stay there. Why go to one you know you are going to hate? Just be a cfi or fly freight till you get what you want. Seniority is everything.

There were a couple TSA guys that were interviewed at RAH not very long ago. The chief pilot for CHQ came down on them pretty hard about abandoning their company. Said it showed something about their character and made them a higher liability to hire. I took a few new hires I saw at the hotel for XJT to lunch since I had a vehicle two days ago. He was one of them and was a nice and intelligent guy. They simply didn't like the fact that he hadn't shown loyalty.

Depending on how the person hiring you feels it could hurt.

More incredible wisdom from a twenty something know it all that is an expert on pilot luggage, can't operate the equipment on his aircraft, can't properly understand a clearance, can't fly a stable approach, flies with people that are borderline dangerous, loses his passport, and can't pass a regional FO PC/Checkride the first time around.

Do you honestly think that YOUR company would would show ANY loyalty towards YOU?


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