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NightIP 08-03-2007 11:36 AM

RAH mins?
 
Hi everyone, sorry if this has already been posted. I see that RAH's posted mins are 1000/100, but are those firm? I know a guy that was just hired with ~670/130 who wasn't an intern, so I'm not exactly sure how he got in. I'm at 770/180 currently...any chance of getting on with them?

RVCguy44 08-03-2007 11:41 AM

we have many people here at RAH who were hired below the posted 1000/100 mins for a couple of reasons. There are "bridge" programs with ATP that allow ATP instructors to be hired with as little as 500 TT. Also, many people go to TSA or Mesa with very low time and, after getting the type rating in the ERJ, come over here to collect the 2500 dollar bonus and get hired below mins. If you have an ERJ SIC Type, RAH will hire you regardless of your time.

NightIP 08-03-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by RVCguy44 (Post 208231)
we have many people here at RAH who were hired below the posted 1000/100 mins for a couple of reasons. There are "bridge" programs with ATP that allow ATP instructors to be hired with as little as 500 TT. Also, many people go to TSA or Mesa with very low time and, after getting the type rating in the ERJ, come over here to collect the 2500 dollar bonus and get hired below mins. If you have an ERJ SIC Type, RAH will hire you regardless of your time.

Hmm, well, neither applies to the guy I know with 670TT. He was an instructor for ERAU-PRC (as am I), so I wonder if RAH has some kind of agreement with us that I don't know about? Strange.

ToiletDuck 08-03-2007 01:12 PM

If you have your MEI you shouldn't have any problem. If not submit anyway. We needed pilots yesterday.

NightIP 08-03-2007 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 208283)
If you have your MEI you shouldn't have any problem. If not submit anyway. We needed pilots yesterday.

Yep, MEI is in-hand. I'll go ahead and submit. Thanks!

ToiletDuck 08-03-2007 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by NightIP (Post 208291)
Yep, MEI is in-hand. I'll go ahead and submit. Thanks!

Send me a PM before you do that :D There's a bottle of your favorite in it for you.

The_Skid 08-03-2007 01:57 PM

I sent in an application and got an e-mail in late April stating that the FO position has been filled. Then got an e-mail in the beginning of June that said it was a mistake and that I should reaaply.

I have not reapplied. If they really wanted me there, they would have kept my info. I can be somewhat particular right now. If they messed up they should fix it, not just send an e-mail telling me to fix what they messed up.

I will not give in!

ToiletDuck 08-03-2007 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by The_Skid (Post 208317)
I sent in an application and got an e-mail in late April stating that the FO position has been filled. Then got an e-mail in the beginning of June that said it was a mistake and that I should reaaply.

I have not reapplied. If they really wanted me there, they would have kept my info. I can be somewhat particular right now. If they messed up they should fix it, not just send an e-mail telling me to fix what they messed up.

I will not give in!

Unless you're sitting at another company like XJT or SKW I wouldn't play the snob just yet.

wally24 08-03-2007 02:39 PM

Is the MEI the kicker, or do you still need the 100 multi regardless of total time?

ScaryKite 08-03-2007 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by The_Skid (Post 208317)
I sent in an application and got an e-mail in late April stating that the FO position has been filled. Then got an e-mail in the beginning of June that said it was a mistake and that I should reaaply.

I have not reapplied. If they really wanted me there, they would have kept my info. I can be somewhat particular right now. If they messed up they should fix it, not just send an e-mail telling me to fix what they messed up.

I will not give in!


get used to it, thats about how things are ran over here, its a Total Cluster cant remember the last word! If i were you, i would just send resumes to [email protected], and get their fax number from republicairways.com, thats what I did, two different people called me in the same day for an interview and then they asked me to fill out the online application, i told them i already had and they were like, "ok see you on friday"

ToiletDuck 08-03-2007 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by wally24 (Post 208345)
Is the MEI the kicker, or do you still need the 100 multi regardless of total time?

Just from people I've known they've all had MEI's if under 100 multi. Never hurts to try though.

CTPILOT 08-03-2007 03:02 PM

I been hearing rumors about LGA not having any 50 seats jets operate out of there. And I know CHQ has a base there whats the future of that and the flying out of LGA?

ToiletDuck 08-03-2007 05:55 PM

No clue. They closed down RIC so there's a few freed up.

SharkyBN584 08-03-2007 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 208359)
I been hearing rumors about LGA not having any 50 seats jets operate out of there. And I know CHQ has a base there whats the future of that and the flying out of LGA?

They've supplemented some UAL flying there for the meantime and they have upgraded some CA's into there as well as moved some FO's in. However, when the whole 175 thing is over, there's going to only be 9 US Air 145's running around which was the bread and butter of that base. As near as I can tell, AWAC has been picking up the 50 seat stuff in LGA as we pull the 145 off of Airways and move it over to CAL. Best guess...who knows. Although I can think of a few other bases that should/would close before LGA goes the way of the buffalo.

iflyjets4food 08-03-2007 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 208350)
get used to it, thats about how things are ran over here, its a Total Cluster cant remember the last word! If i were you, i would just send resumes to [email protected], and get their fax number from republicairways.com, thats what I did, two different people called me in the same day for an interview and then they asked me to fill out the online application, i told them i already had and they were like, "ok see you on friday"

This is truth. You'll upgrade before they realize you didn't go back and re-complete the application.

iflyjets4food 08-03-2007 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 208526)
Although I can think of a few other bases that should/would close before LGA goes the way of the buffalo.

Wishful thinking???

I imagine that they'll close GSO, BUF, LGA, and CVG soon (12 months), probably in that order.

01WJ 08-03-2007 08:51 PM

I got that same e-mail, stating the position had been filled with more qualified applicants, and then a month later asking me to re-apply.

Went to Skywest in the mean time though, so oh well.

ExperimentalAB 08-04-2007 08:28 AM

Boy am I glad I didn't go to CHQ then! The only two bases that worked for me: RIC (axed!) and LGA (on the chopping block?)...*phew

Edit: Question mark added to "chopping block" LoL

RVCguy44 08-04-2007 08:35 AM

I don't know where people are getting the idea that LGA is "on the chopping block." We just expanded LGA and it is going more junior than it ever has. There is a lot of CAL flying based out of there right now. I can't see BUF going anywhere anytime soon, because they have been dumping most of the newhires there recently (mostly against our wishes). There is no US flying out of BUF anymore, so the loss of US 145s will not affect it.

waflyboy 08-04-2007 10:40 AM

There seem to be quite a few RAH guys monitoring this thread... I've got a question for you.

To which domicile are most new hire FOs being sent? Any chance of a new guy getting DEN?

Thanks in advance. Republic seems like a good place to be.

iflyjets4food 08-04-2007 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by waflyboy (Post 208829)
There seem to be quite a few RAH guys monitoring this thread... I've got a question for you.

To which domicile are most new hire FOs being sent? Any chance of a new guy getting DEN?

Thanks in advance. Republic seems like a good place to be.

It all depends on what is needed when you get out of training. If you are hired as a Republic Airlines FO, the latest award for first officers (posted yesterday) lists some new hires going to DEN. The award for CHQ 145 listed new hires going to CMH, LGA, BUF, and STL. This list changes monthly though. Republic is a good place to be. It is like everywhere in that it has it's problems. What airline doesn't have problems? There are TONS of bases. I think with the next contract, this may shrink a bit (see my post above).

FedExHeavy 08-04-2007 09:45 PM

Any chance of getting an interview with 600/230? The bases offered at RAH work better for me than any other regional.

ToiletDuck 08-05-2007 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by FedExHeavy (Post 209068)
Any chance of getting an interview with 600/230? The bases offered at RAH work better for me than any other regional.

Send me a PM and email me your resume. The system will automatically kick it out but if it's forward to Mrs. Bannister then it's possible you could get hired yes. Also if you have your MEI that's a huge plus it seems if under timed. Don't keep your hopes up for the 170 though.

ScaryKite 08-05-2007 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by FedExHeavy (Post 209068)
Any chance of getting an interview with 600/230? The bases offered at RAH work better for me than any other regional.


couldn't hurt, i started applying online when i had 300 and 50, didnt get a call for a long long long time, but at least i had an application in when the time was right!

sigep_nm 08-05-2007 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 209174)
Send me a PM and email me your resume. The system will automatically kick it out but if it's forward to Mrs. Bannister then it's possible you could get hired yes. Also if you have your MEI that's a huge plus it seems if under timed. Don't keep your hopes up for the 170 though.

Man you gotta be nuts recommended/forwarding emails with your name attached for people you dont even know. I am guessing you get some kind of kick back for it. I hope you do, because backing someone you dont know is pretty reckless. Your reputation is an important thing in this business, and if one of these guys ends up being a bomb then you are going to lose that rep. But then again it is you.

ToiletDuck 08-05-2007 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 209457)
Man you gotta be nuts recommended/forwarding emails with your name attached for people you dont even know. I am guessing you get some kind of kick back for it. I hope you do, because backing someone you dont know is pretty reckless. Your reputation is an important thing in this business, and if one of these guys ends up being a bomb then you are going to lose that rep. But then again it is you.

Your entire post makes me feel like some PPL just explained what a stall is to me. Quit trying to be a drama queen. The company checks everything regarding an applicant it's called an interview. Then there's that whole training bit with checkride thingamabobs. They want us to find able applicants. Don't have to vouch for them like they are your brother-in-law. Obviously they can fly or they wouldn't have their ratings and be in that position. The FAA and examiners along with the people that currently hire them seem to think they do a good enough job. That's enough references for me. It's no big deal. As far as rep goes you get a good one by helping folks not by telling them to p1ssoff. I'll help anyone I can. RAH is one of the good guys and I'd rather seem them come here then to other places. You just worry about yourself there and I'm sure the world will keep on spinning.

sigep_nm 08-05-2007 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 209493)
Your entire post makes me feel like some PPL just explained what a stall is to me. Quit trying to be a drama queen. The company checks everything regarding an applicant it's called an interview. Then there's that whole training bit with checkride thingamabobs. They want us to find able applicants. Don't have to vouch for them like they are your brother-in-law. Obviously they can fly or they wouldn't have their ratings and be in that position. The FAA and examiners along with the people that currently hire them seem to think they do a good enough job. That's enough references for me. It's no big deal. As far as rep goes you get a good one by helping folks not by telling them to p1ssoff. I'll help anyone I can. RAH is one of the good guys and I'd rather seem them come here then to other places. You just worry about yourself there and I'm sure the world will keep on spinning.

Yes you confirmed it, you are a lunatic. Vouching for someone is a bigger responsiblity than buying a backpack that might work out for an interview. So the FAA passes the best huh? And checkrides are standard right? Which kool aid did you drink, the cherry or the grape? You are so out of touch with reality, that it makes me think you just might be an every day passenger. And you really think that your HR department these days are going to hire the best pilots? What HR person do you know that is ACTUALLY A PILOT? And yes I will tell unqualified people to P@ss off, I will never attach my name to someone that cant hack it, like hell they are going to take me down with them. Your crusade to HELP ANYONE is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Grow up, or help everyone come there and watch how dispicable your pilot group will become....but hey at least you got some more dollars in your pocket...what a joke. Flown the Merlin lately?

ToiletDuck 08-05-2007 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 209502)
Yes you confirmed it, you are a lunatic. Vouching for someone is a bigger responsiblity than buying a backpack that might work out for an interview. So the FAA passes the best huh? And checkrides are standard right? Which kool aid did you drink, the cherry or the grape? You are so out of touch with reality, that it makes me think you just might be an every day passenger. And you really think that your HR department these days are going to hire the best pilots? What HR person do you know that is ACTUALLY A PILOT? And yes I will tell unqualified people to P@ss off, I will never attach my name to someone that cant hack it, like hell they are going to take me down with them. Your crusade to HELP ANYONE is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Grow up, or help everyone come there and watch how dispicable your pilot group will become....but hey at least you got some more dollars in your pocket...what a joke. Flown the Merlin lately?

1) Merlin-no but wish so
2) I don't get any money for it
3) Just because you're an ass doesn't mean we all have to be. What exactly is your history of flying? I'd like to know what makes you feel just telling lower time guys to beat it is ok. One day you'll see them and can either have a beer with them or ask them for a jumpseat and be denied.
4) Yes, if they meet the standards they are good enough. No check airman wants to put his ticket on the line. I'm not signing anyone off to go solo that I've never flown with or just lending them my plane. Climb down off the cross. You strike me as some regional lifer, not by choice, who's disgruntled and hates life. You also act like a child and for a person of your age with your profession your lack of maturity and professionalism is appalling.

Once again. You are completely unneeded here. This is between guys wanting to get hired at my company and me wanting to help them. Take your personality disorder elsewhere. I like to try and keep things in a "positive" mood but you seem to always randomly jump in and ruin that. Once again what's in your resume? I'd like to know your flight experience, employment history, etc. Be nice to know why a guy at a regional thinks he the big kid on the block.

sigep_nm 08-05-2007 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 209507)
1) You are completely unneeded here. This is between guys wanting to get hired at my company and me wanting to help them. .

Not suprisingly TD you have lost all touch with reality, as usual....Must be the hello kitty backpack. And no I am not a lifer, however if I end up being so I hope it makes you feel better. SJS is a dangerous thing, I recommend you get treatment for it. Guess what your seniority number goes to if you upgrade? I'll give you a hint, chop off you fingers and count to ten. But hey you always have a Merlin captain to go back to....plus this time you will have your trusty Garmin operatorts manual to fall back on.............

ToiletDuck 08-05-2007 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 209509)
Not suprisingly TD you have lost all touch with reality, as usual....Must be the hello kitty backpack. And no I am not a lifer, however if I end up being so I hope it makes you feel better. SJS is a dangerous thing, I recommend you get treatment for it. Guess what your seniority number goes to if you upgrade? I'll give you a hint, chop off you fingers and count to ten. But hey you always have a Merlin captain to go back to....plus this time you will have your trusty Garmin operatorts manual to fall back on.............

1)So what's in your resume again? Age, location, past job experience, references? You are dodging this. So lets here it? Lay it all out.
2)How is it you see I have SJS? Wanting to help someone made you think that?
3)You've completely lost me on where seniority number, which stays the same btw, and chopping off fingers comes into play with any of this. I think you're losing it.

ToiletDuck 08-05-2007 09:45 PM

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SharkyBN584 08-05-2007 10:04 PM

The guys gotta point. Passing off resumes to HR for someone you saw post on an internet board is dangerous and stupid. I'm all about giving people information to get in here if they want to...but unless I've flown with you, you're not seeing my name attached to your resume...ever...

Now...if you want to see his resume to give advice on what he could fix or see if he would be a likely candidate, then fine. But if you're seriously thinking about passing this one on down the pipe...you're retarded.

ToiletDuck 08-06-2007 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 209528)
The guys gotta point. Passing off resumes to HR for someone you saw post on an internet board is dangerous and stupid. I'm all about giving people information to get in here if they want to...but unless I've flown with you, you're not seeing my name attached to your resume...ever...

Now...if you want to see his resume to give advice on what he could fix or see if he would be a likely candidate, then fine. But if you're seriously thinking about passing this one on down the pipe...you're retarded.

Guess I am then. There is no harm in reviewing someone's resume and if you see fit passing it on the company as an able applicant. It's what the company wants. They aren't asking for you to personally vouch for the person or their flying skills. They simply need help in finding people that have decent qualifications. If there is someone with close TT and a good amount of his multi is twin turbine then there is no reason why you can't send his resume in saying you've found a candidate who's past experience you feel qualifies them for an interview. Once again you aren't attaching your name to the person or vouching for them.

You guys are making something big out of something that isn't. How many people do you know working at UPS or FedEX or a major that you keep in touch with hoping one day to have them walk your resume in but you've actually never flown with? My old CFI flies at NetJets and is upgrading to captain there. He loves it there and said he'd walk anyone's resume min because it's such a great company. Two people since have been hired because I emailed their resumes to him. That's what you call NETWORKING. Making contacts and friends. There's nothing wrong with it and it's almost a currency in this industry.

Only in this place could someone offer help and then shortly later people chime in unwanted or needed giving their 2 cents as to why they think you shouldn't when their opinions were never asked for because they never mattered to start with. I never asked either of you what you thought of it and don't care enough to change my mind on the subject. It's not near as big of a deal as you two are trying to make it. It's just pushing someone's resume to the front of the pile so they are gotten to sooner rather than later.

3.85GPA
CFI/CFII/MEI
230 multi.

The fact this person is putting in his dues as a CFI rather than running to Mesa, Colgan, a PFT program etc is enough for me to help push his to the front. Shows he has a little respect for the industry. More than I can say for several SJS guys that go to the first place that hires. Mont just keep doing what you're doing bud. You'll end up in a good spot sooner or later. Don't sell yourself short.

POPA 08-06-2007 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 209614)
More than I can say for several SJS guys that go to the first place that hires.

You went to the first jet operator that hired you.

SharkyBN584 08-06-2007 08:43 AM

Hey...do whatever you want man. But having been apart of hiring before, when you pass along a resume, yea, you are fixing your name to it whether you think you are or not. Sure, we've all been helped once or twice removed down the pipe (your NetJets example) but that's a far cry from picking a resume off an internet board and saying "This guy would be great for an interview."

ToiletDuck 08-06-2007 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 209650)
You went to the first jet operator that hired you.

Play on words. Fine I'll elaborate. I knew exactly where I wanted to work and I held out until I was hired there. I didn't take a job simply because they were the only company that would hire me with my big case of SJS, such as yourself, then leave them months later once I was hired on by a more reputable place. I try not to screw the industry meanwhile you don't really set yourself apart from those you complain about. There's a difference between working for what you want and taking the first and only thing that came along because you didn't want to be a CFI, fly freight, part 91, whatever for awhile.

ToiletDuck 08-06-2007 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 209654)
Hey...do whatever you want man. But having been apart of hiring before, when you pass along a resume, yea, you are fixing your name to it whether you think you are or not. Sure, we've all been helped once or twice removed down the pipe (your NetJets example) but that's a far cry from picking a resume off an internet board and saying "This guy would be great for an interview."

You're assuming once again that I'd say "this guy would be great for an interview". I understand the implications of vouching for someone. There are different types of recommendations out there. They aren't all of the personal variety. It is very standard practice in the business world to recommend someone's resume because it's a good resume. I sent his in and specifically stated I had yet to fly with the individual and couldn't vouch for his abilities in the plane. However, his resume is somewhat impressive and deserves a look. Should you (HR) decide it's not yet worthy of an interview keep it on file and we'll update it regularly. I value someone that is out putting in his dues and think it shows something of his character. He's intelligent, hard working, and wants to be a part of our organization. I'll leave it to you(HR) to decide further.

That's the gist of what the letter was about. Simply "Hey I found a resume that looks promising take a look and see what you think" kind of thing.

So being helped by someone twice removed, who you don't really know, have never flown with, is different then helping someone you met on a message board how? It's not entirely much different. Sometimes you can pick things up about people. You guys assume the only communication I have with this individual is on this board for all to read. But what it comes down to is if someone displays a level headed way of thinking, puts in his dues, and wants to work. I don't have any reason trying to help them get a job. I understand what you're saying and feel free to say no. I don't have any problem looking at someone's resume and if I like it, sending it it.

POPA 08-06-2007 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 209667)
Play on words. Fine I'll elaborate. I knew exactly where I wanted to work and I held out until I was hired there. I didn't take a job simply because they were the only company that would hire me with my big case of SJS, such as yourself, then leave them months later once I was hired on by a more reputable place. I try not to screw the industry meanwhile you don't really set yourself apart from those you complain about. There's a difference between working for what you want and taking the first and only thing that came along because you didn't want to be a CFI, fly freight, part 91, whatever for awhile.

Trans States wasn't the only company that would hire me. I actually turned down a few other jobs to go there, and refrained from sending resumes to other regionals who would have taken me. Oh yeah, I instructed before that, so there goes your last claim.
All I did there was build quality time at nobody's expense while flying with a good pilot group.
Then, after I built my time at TSA, I went to a decent regional where I'm about two or three numbers junior to you, yet will upgrade at an earlier age than you. (And, people like flying with me)
Meanwhile, you almost crashed a Merlin God knows how many times, and took money you didn't earn from the American taxpayers.
You can blabber on all you want about how I'm no different from GoJetters, or about how I'm an SJSer, but the rest of us know differently.
Oh, and what I said wasn't a play on words at all. It was the truth.

ToiletDuck 08-06-2007 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 209678)
Trans States wasn't the only company that would hire me. I actually turned down a few other jobs to go there, and refrained from sending resumes to other regionals who would have taken me. Oh yeah, I instructed before that, so there goes your last claim.
All I did there was build quality time at nobody's expense while flying with a good pilot group.
Then, after I built my time at TSA, I went to a decent regional where I'm about two or three numbers junior to you, yet will upgrade at an earlier age than you. (And, people like flying with me)
Meanwhile, you almost crashed a Merlin God knows how many times, and took money you didn't earn from the American taxpayers.
You can blabber on all you want about how I'm no different from GoJetters, or about how I'm an SJSer, but the rest of us know differently.
Oh, and what I said wasn't a play on words at all. It was the truth.

You couldn't me more wrong.I didn't screw any taxpayers out of anything I worked my butt off. You'll upgrade at a younger age is great. You annoyed everyone in class to where they'd sneak into your room at night to play practical jokes on you lol. You were a CFI for how long and how many hrs? You turned down other regional jobs and took Trans States to build time? There's no sense there and yes it does screw the industry as a whole. Why didn't you just hold out to work here if it's what you really wanted? You are a SJSer. You even said during indoc that Trans put you in the jet the quickest so it was a logical move and you decided to wait there till you got RAH because you are from the area and had a relationship with them from Purdue. You say everyone here might know you differently but how many have known you in person? It's not blabbering. If you weren't making a play on words then you were just making a stupid statement. Figures. As far as I've almost crashed an airplane god knows how many times? That's a very bold statement to go throwing around with no knowledge of anything. I've had an engine break in flight on a cessna and that's it. Your random dumb statements and acts are what made you the butt of most jokes in our class. You say what you want here. How do you think I figured out who you were? All the random "I want to make a smart arse" statment to try and sound cool meanwhile I'm a young bobby hill look alike that really gets on people's last nerve just stood out. There's plenty more story to tell and I'm refraining as you're the one who jumped in here making random inaccurate statements yet again. I'm here trying to help a guy get his resume in and you're off being stupid. You just made the ignore list yay!


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