Summer Job at Mesa...
 

Here's are my random questions I'll probably get flamed for...

1. Is it possible to get hired at Mesa for 3 months (during the summer) while I go to college....with only an Instrument/Multi Commercial?
2. Would they hire someone for only 3 months?
3. What are the chances of being able to choose something like ORD as a base...which is a non-stop flight (1-2hr at that) from PVD (where I live)?
4. How long is the training for Mesa?

Don't really care what type of plane. E120s would be nice or CRJs would be even better.

Edit: This could also apply for Trans States and Piedmont

would you spend thousands training a pilot who only wanted to work for three months then leave???

1. Yes possible however right now they are so backed up you wouldnt step inside an airplane for at least 4 months from training.
2. see above
3. no chance of ORD, youd be stuck at JFK
4. should be 2 months but right now its taking about 5
Plus youd owe them thousands of dollars for breaking the training contract.

Gotcha. Thanks guys. Solves that then.

Find a job flying traffic or something for the summer, not an airline job.

Finish up college and then come to the regionals. You have plenty of time.

I don't know which is worse, the fact that somebody thought it would be possible to get a summer job as an airline pilot or the fact that the industry's gotten bad enough to give birth to that idea.

Are you for real?? You think you're ready to fly paying pax on complex jets with no experience. Why don't you get a clue and stop posting on daddy's computer. Try mcdonalds for 3 months. By the way mesa doesn't hire comm pilots unless you're from mapd and they don't fly E120s get your facts straight.:rolleyes:

An Ull mak mor muhney an hav mor dayz off wurkin at Mac Dahnuds.

Probably both haha. It's Mesa so you never know...

I've pretty much got a job secured at a small airline working at a station doing Operations and whatnot so I'm not going crazy.

Thank you for your post. You are a very kindhearted gentleman. I have a few things to say to you in regards to your post. Firstly, getting hired is the only way to learn these "complex jets" right? How else would I do it? Secondly, this isn't daddy's computer. I don't speak to my father and I built this computer myself. I've already worked at McDonalds when I was 15...and I've had worse jobs...believe it or not. Also, what is this "mapd" that you speak of? And about the E120s, I misread another post and thought they did. I was probably thinking about Skywest.

I look forward to more of your very indepth criticisms of me. Thanks for all of your help so far!

No offense to Crism, but it is a little funny that there are people trying to get a summer job as an airline pilot.

But seriously, take that job in Ops. You'll be surprised at how much you'll learn about how airlines run. I did the same while i was instructing- it was a lot of fun!

Mesa Airlines Pilot Development........Mesa's own pilot mill.

Sorry but this post is ripe for flamebait. First, please at least ATTEMPT to do some research on a place you would like to be employed by. It shows professionalism. Second, seriously, were you just joking about getting a job at a regional for a "summer job"?

Crism. What is your experience in aviation so far? You need to do some research on how things work in this career. You're in the right place. I'd also suggest jetcareers.com, which is more set up for a newbie. Anyhow, not being critical, but you asked a question that most people in the biz are going to find very funny. Some will find it sad.

But I have to say I've never heard of someone asking if he could work as an airline pilot just for a summer. That's a new one.

Go to the home page of jetcareers.com and read about how things work. Then, read the "perspectives" links about how other guys have done it. You'll be able to answer a lot of your own questions that way.

Seriously, he has to be joking.

Either that or thats how the up and coming pilot group see the RJs now that they have dropped their times to super low mins. I remember when I started flying in 99 the mins were high and my instructors were getting hired in 2000 with 1000/100 and I thought that was low.....

Yeah I'm familiar with how things work. I've been working in the industry for about a year now. I've loaded and marshalled everything from 402s, CRJs, MD88s, A319s, and A321s. I've got 120TT and 8ME and have my Private Multi-Engine ride scheduled for tomorrow.....after 8.1hrs which is the lowest my CFI has ever seen someone do a Multi (VFR only or not). It's in the Twin Comanche...light twin with a Vmc of 78kts...

And you HONESTLY believe that qualifies you for an airline job?!:confused: Maybe in Pakistan but not here...:rolleyes: I hope this is either flame bait or you got drunk and were trying to be "funny".

Wow..................

I'm with Popa...I don't know whether to laugh or cry....

Steve... you're crazy dude. Just progress yourself to get the CFI and build time... PIC TIME!.. during the summer, and while you're at college!

come on dude, really. think it through. a summer job as an airline pilot?? you would go through training for 2 months and then what? have 2 months of actual flying before you have to go back to school?? also, i don't believe mesa would pay you during your time in ground school anyway. sorry to lower your high expectations (which are completely ridiculous) during this low-time, "still wet ink on the commercial multi"- hiring boom that is happening right now, but no regional would be stupid enough to hire you for the summer. even so, when you say instrument/multi i hope you mean commercial multi, cause with a private instrument/multi i don't believe its legal for you to be working up front of that shiny crj 900 that all those low time mesa new hires hold so dear to their hearts and dream about flying someday.

Can you say Would You Like Fries With That.

OH NO! Not any more... Skywest has been snatching 'em up as quickly as MPD turns 'em out I hear...

Oh, Boeingt7- we get paid the same to fly the ERJ, Crj 200, 700 and 900 as FO. So, who care what ya fly over here? Just avoid the B1900 like the plague. I think they start out at about 15/hour or something. I have to look at our contract to be sure, but I hate getting my hands dirty... I have wiped my bottom with it so many times...

I didnt know MEsa has a JFK base, that would be HORRIBLE with all the delays and no pay protection.....wow

ERJ Driver, I was saying about how most of mesa's 300 hour (if that) wonders can't wait to get their hands (with that fresh comm multi still leaving ink marks on them) on that -900, just so they can tell their friends that they fwy a weal big jet. extremely low-time pilot flying 70+ people in the back = SCARY

Crism-

The above qualifications don't make a strong case for you. Even the lowest time hires here at Mesa (from the Mesa Airlines Pilot Development program a.k.a. MAPD) have at least 300 hours and roughly 100 multi with a commerial and instrument. I'm not saying this is high time, but it is high time relative to you.

I worked the ramp before my airline job, and short of knowing to wear ear plugs and stay away from turning props, it hasn't benefitted me working in the cockpit whatsoever.

I got my multi in 3.9 hours in a Beech travel air, a burly twin that is older than the two of us combined.

This sounds like I am trying to start a peeing match with you, and I assure you am not. Recently I have realized I come across as a jerk, so I am trying to change that.

What 727ups said above is spot on. Previously I wasn't a fan of him, but that post changed my mind. Read it and take it to heart.

Finish up school, get your ratings and some time, then come to the regionals. It's the right way to do it.

Your right I know of a couple of MAPD graduates that went straight to skywest.

LOL I know 2 that were recruited from MAPD to Skywest. A recuiter actually promised them an interview as soon as they finished.

I used to think you were a jerk, but I like this post of yours.

This is the best thread ever! Thanks for the laugh Crism and then Drums4life says its possible? Haha.

Crism you will encounter a lot of kindhearted gentlemen is the airlines... time to toughen up the skin.

No one 121 carrier will hire a part time pilot unless you get a MBA and become management. Cheers.

The last time this came up I called one of the SKW interview CA's just to find out for sure....

This could have happened if they went to MAPD PACE and already had a bunch of previous time (like 900 hours). MAPD would provide the required 100 ME.

But MAPD ab intio? Not a chance (at least so far anyway).

I'm trying to get away from the jerk thing, no reason to go through life ****ing off other people.