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Old 08-17-2007, 07:13 AM
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What kind of time frame are new hires with a fair amount (650hrs) of turbine PIC upgrading? I understand being a junior ca for a while, but is ASA like Xjet where you have to wait until your number is up, or like Pinnacle where if you have X number of hours you can go ahead and bid for captain? 1st year FO pay is terrible, but I like ASA's route structure and being in ATL, and if I could upgrade in 6-8 months, I wouldn't mind the temporary lack of pay. Also, what kind of hours per month are you guys at ASA getting?

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Old 08-17-2007, 07:14 AM
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Also, any chance of being hired as street ca in the ATR, or better chance of upgrading faster?
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:18 AM
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Seniority based. I don't think they hire street captains, this isn't Mesa or GoJet.

Upgrade is looking to drop to about 2 years--at least that's the word from the hiring dept. and also from the pilots there.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:22 AM
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Pretty much every airline operates under the seniority based upgrade system. The reason why Pinnacle is upgrading so fast is because no one else on property has the mins to upgrade.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:57 AM
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ASA just got a touch quicker since a captain was removed from a hotel for walking around naked!

Naked captains, drunk F/As, Crazy craig's list adds... They seem to know how to have a good time over there
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ASA just got a touch quicker since a captain was removed from a hotel for walking around naked!

Naked captains, drunk F/As, Crazy craig's list adds... They seem to know how to have a good time over there
Hahhaah we had a STREAKER at XJT too, hahahhahah
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:31 AM
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6-8 months impossibe! No street captains!

Maybe 3 yrs, I doubt 2. Two classes ago, CRJ Captain was nearly 5 years.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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Go somewhere else if you want a quick upgrade. ASA has a lot of older guys hanging around holding everyone back, and that means that you need around 5-6+ years of company seniority in order to hold a line as a captain. Also, our lines stink! The September bid had like one three day trip in the whole packet! Everyone else is stuck w/four day trips or sitting reserve with 12-13 days off for the whole month.
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How many hours do you credit per 4 day? I like those. More per diem.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:59 PM
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According to some folks there are 30 upgrades a month....hiring 40 a month (or trying to at least). Upgrade time as they are saying now is about 24-30 months. As much as ASA pilots fly......there won't be a problem with quals when the number comes....age may be an issue?!?!
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