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Tuckster 08-21-2007 07:22 AM

CRJ training software
 
Any suggestions/comments/experiences with either of these ?? I'm looking for the best interactive software package that will help me learn the CRJ systems as well as learning the cockpit (FMS etc.). I plan on playing with the MS FS CRJ add-on ( by Wilco) but also want something a little more sofisticated. Both of these look pretty good.

www.aerosim.com

http://avsoft.com/

rickair7777 08-21-2007 08:25 AM

I have aerosim, and it is EXTREMELY useful for learning the FMS, navigation, and auto flight control system. Many airlines use it on a CBT.

I have v1.0 Rel-B, which is pretty outdated as far as the FMS software is concerned...you can still get the fundamentals but a lot of details are different. I assume there is a newer version.

I would suggest that you don't use the software until you are in ground school and have been trained on the AFCS and FMS (or at least have read the chapter). If you have previous AFCS/FMS experience you can probably figure it out on your own.

KW10001 08-21-2007 08:25 AM

I have never heard of both of them, with that, i wouldnt use them, i have had my fair share of Scams...... im not calling these sites scams, im just saying there are better.......

Although i prefer PMDG for 747, 737, and MD-11, Level-D for my 767, and Eaglesoft for my GA Craft, a site called, Wilco/Feelthere is the best choice for a CRJ/ERJ class aircraft..... They have full FADEC, FMS, AP, and full glass cockpits..... Check it out.... :cool:

Hope that helps.... :p;)

KW10001 08-21-2007 08:27 AM

There you go, aerosim will do fine ;)

Tuckster 08-21-2007 10:47 AM

Wilco is the CRJ Add-On for MS Flight Sim 'game'. I would expect it to be less than acurate but .... I just want to familiarize myself with the CRJ before heading off to an interview and a sim evaluation.
Thanks for the replies

rickair7777 08-21-2007 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by KW10001 (Post 218548)
I have never heard of both of them, with that, i wouldnt use them, i have had my fair share of Scams...... im not calling these sites scams, im just saying there are better.......

Although i prefer PMDG for 747, 737, and MD-11, Level-D for my 767, and Eaglesoft for my GA Craft, a site called, Wilco/Feelthere is the best choice for a CRJ/ERJ class aircraft..... They have full FADEC, FMS, AP, and full glass cockpits..... Check it out.... :cool:

Hope that helps....



Ummm....Aerosim is not a video game, it is PROFESSIONAL TRAINING SOFTWARE, designed to be used by REAL pilots who arre getting qualified on REAL turbojet aircraft. You may not have heard of it, but the professionals and the airlines certainly have :rolleyes:

Airborne 08-21-2007 11:10 AM

Hey Rickair- What product/s would you recommend to get ahead of the game when still pursuing that 1st regional job. Or is it better to wait until you get hired somewhere first?

KW10001 08-21-2007 11:33 AM

Flight Sim, when used with purchased software, can hardly be called a 'video game'..... video game, in my opinion, is a game used to keep the 10 year olds busy, in which the 'video game' has no intent on teaching you anything....

Sorry, you dont learn how to operate LNAV, VNAV, and FADEC (ect.) from a 'video game' :(

make me sad ;)

KW10001 08-21-2007 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Tuckster (Post 218608)
Wilco is the CRJ Add-On for MS Flight Sim 'game'. I would expect it to be less than acurate but ....

Let me ask, have you ever used a High End Sim Addon from a 3rd party developer..... i actually prefer that over these Aerosim websites.... in terms of Software, but i do like the hardware these Aerosim developers offer.....

rickair7777 08-21-2007 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Airborne (Post 218619)
Hey Rickair- What product/s would you recommend to get ahead of the game when still pursuing that 1st regional job. Or is it better to wait until you get hired somewhere first?

Trying to get ahead for 121 training is not required, and is not likely to be helpful since every airline has different procedures and and a different version of FAR 121 by which they operate.

Preparing for the interview is what you should be concerned with...

Know basic 121 rules (get the internet gouge to narrow it down).

If you expect a sim eval on an interview you will need to prep for that using (preferably) an identical of similar sim. If that's not practical, use MS Flight sim with an aircraft similar to the sim you expect to use. Any other high-end PC flight sim game would probably work too, just use an appropriate aircraft model.

Other than that, be knowledgeable about your current job and aircraft.

KW10001 08-21-2007 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Tuckster (Post 218508)
Any suggestions/comments/experiences with either of these ?? I'm looking for the best interactive software package that will help me learn the CRJ systems as well as learning the cockpit (FMS etc.). I plan on playing with the MS FS CRJ add-on ( by Wilco) but also want something a little more sofisticated. Both of these look pretty good.

ok, the Wilco CRJ, is perfect for learning the system, the aerosim is PERFECT for mastering the aircraft... Enjoy:p;)

gbntpilot 08-21-2007 01:35 PM

I know you're askign for software. But, consider this too:

http://www.crjstudyguide.com/

I've found a few inaccuracies in it. But, overall, the book a great way to study the CRJ systems. Rather than reading like a manual, it's all arranged in a question/answer format. I wish the second edition had been out when I did my type rating. The first edition wasn't nearly as complete, and only addressed the 200. This new edition is awesome.

KW10001 08-21-2007 02:03 PM

Very nice, sometimes reading is just as good :)

Pilotpip 08-21-2007 02:53 PM

I really don't think you have the credentials to add your two cents with a signature like this:


Originally Posted by KW10001
Kylan Walters
Virtual Air Canada
767 Class Sim Rating
VATSIM Hours: 745

You'll learn everything you need to know during training. I wouldn't worry too terribly much about trying to get ahead of the game. If you want to do some early prep, I'd suggest reading "The Turbine Pilots Flight Manual". It's a little bit dated but gives good laymen's descriptions of major systems on jet aircraft.

av8tr_2007 08-21-2007 04:24 PM

I agree. I have this book too and it comes with an interactive CD.

If you are just itching to fly the CRJ for no other reason, than check out Gulfstream. They have a new interview prep course out of Vero. I think they are still working out the bugs but I did it. It was $600. I honestly didn't get much from the oral prep but the guys that were working the CRJ sim were incredible! I won't tell u how many hours I got but it was more then what was advertised. I don't recommend focusing on the CRJ for an interview but if you just want to fly it, this would be great for you.

The two interviews I have been to have used a PCATD that was based off of a baron and an MD-80. Don't think that CRJ knowledge or experience would have helped u for the interview but it might be good to have after u are offered a job.


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 218779)
I really don't think you have the credentials to add your two cents with a signature like this:



You'll learn everything you need to know during training. I wouldn't worry too terribly much about trying to get ahead of the game. If you want to do some early prep, I'd suggest reading "The Turbine Pilots Flight Manual". It's a little bit dated but gives good laymen's descriptions of major systems on jet aircraft.


Silver02ex 08-21-2007 04:55 PM

I have the Avsoft CBT, and it's a great program.


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