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Old 08-21-2007 | 07:27 AM
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I have an Aug. 27 class date. Angela gave me the manuals and said to know the flows. Do I need to have the CA flows down as well, or just the FO flows?
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Old 08-21-2007 | 07:33 AM
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haha, the CA as well, I wouldnt get too worked up, be familiar with them, you will have time to get to know them, the only studying I ever did was on the 4 hr flights from IAH-EWR/EWR-IAH, becuase I went home every weekend...............
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Old 08-21-2007 | 07:37 AM
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Go to www.ccsmax.com and look for the limitations page and memorize that too. That'll give you a huge leg up.

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Old 08-21-2007 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSeatDude
I have an Aug. 27 class date. Angela gave me the manuals and said to know the flows. Do I need to have the CA flows down as well, or just the FO flows?
YES. Study both Ca and FO flows. If your partner does not know the flows when you are the PF in the right seat in the FTDs then it will mess up the flow of your training day and shorten the amount of learning to be done because the instructor will be queing up simple flow items rather than teaching you the proper operation of the aircraft.

Here is my suggestion. Study Limitations, CA and FO flows, Expanded Checklist (VOL.1), then make flash cards for limitations and the tests durring your flows ie. Ice test, Fire Det Test...

Good Luck

PS- there will be lots of folks at training with different amounts of experience. DO NOT let them try to get you to go out and party or drink durring ground school. The party starts AFTER you pass your Type ride and IOE.
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Old 08-21-2007 | 07:58 AM
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Default Gentlemen, thank you all....

I just did my last trip with Mesa, and have the next 6 days to be ready for XJT. I have over 850 hours in the ERJ, but am taking nothing for granted. I'm still going to work hard and let the others do the partying.

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Old 08-21-2007 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSeatDude
I just did my last trip with Mesa, and have the next 6 days to be ready for XJT. I have over 850 hours in the ERJ, but am taking nothing for granted. I'm still going to work hard and let the others do the partying.

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Your prior 121, training will be a breeze, dont kill yourself, study and know what you need to know, but no harm in going out and getting a few beers with your training buds..............
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Old 08-21-2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Your prior 121, training will be a breeze, dont kill yourself, study and know what you need to know, but no harm in going out and getting a few beers with your training buds..............
I'm just a little paranoid. Someone I knew quit Mesa after about 200 hours in the ERJ, went to Chautauqua and washed out in ERJ training.

I have a lot more time than that, but just want to yield on the side of caution.
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Originally Posted by RightSeatDude
I'm just a little paranoid. Someone I knew quit Mesa after about 200 hours in the ERJ, went to Chautauqua and washed out in ERJ training.

I have a lot more time than that, but just want to yield on the side of caution.
I hear ya, welcome aboard, I was at Colgan, this place is like heaven compared to both of our dumps of airlines, congrats..............
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Old 08-21-2007 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSeatDude
I'm just a little paranoid. Someone I knew quit Mesa after about 200 hours in the ERJ, went to Chautauqua and washed out in ERJ training.

I have a lot more time than that, but just want to yield on the side of caution.
You won't have any problems, your buddy probably thought that he was guaranteed to pass or something. Hit it hard at first until you get the feel for the new training program. Once you know what you're up against you'll be able to relax.

My experience switching airlines (but staying in the same airplane) was that the procedures were just different enough to create confusion. You can already fly the airplane, and you probably remember the systems but you will have to emphasize the flows and profiles in your study plan.
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Old 08-21-2007 | 08:27 AM
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Excellent. That's pretty much my assessment of it all at this point. The flows are a little different, so that's something new to get used to. And we didn't have the XR, so there's a few more limitations. Nothing to get too excited, but just want to be prepared.

Thanks.

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You won't have any problems, your buddy probably thought that he was guaranteed to pass or something. Hit it hard at first until you get the feel for the new training program. Once you know what you're up against you'll be able to relax.

My experience switching airlines (but staying in the same airplane) was that the procedures were just different enough to create confusion. You can already fly the airplane, and you probably remember the systems but you will have to emphasize the flows and profiles in your study plan.
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