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outofwork 02-24-2009 03:49 AM

So given that right now they are expecting a 2500+/- hour increase in April and 3200+/- in May and assuming they think they are staffed for the current level of flying....how many additional crews would that kind of block hour increase require?

flycrj200 02-24-2009 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by outofwork (Post 565936)
So given that right now they are expecting a 2500+/- hour increase in April and 3200+/- in May and assuming they think they are staffed for the current level of flying....how many additional crews would that kind of block hour increase require?

25 more crews, but they are saying we are staffed for the increas, so no recalls as I see it. :(

outofwork 02-24-2009 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by flycrj200 (Post 565937)
25 more crews, but they are saying we are staffed for the increas, so no recalls as I see it. :(

I just cant see how that's possible...we are BARELY getting by with current crew staffing levels, CVG was down to 1 LC yesterday afternoon...I just cant see how they can expect to operate a RELIABLE operation with bare bones staffing.

overworked 02-24-2009 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Montu (Post 565916)
Nope, no choice in the matter whatsoever. Believe me, contrary to what you may think, I don't get my rocks off calling people into work on their day off. And, if it makes you feel better, they do exactly the same thing to us on off days. At least they usually tell you its a JM, rather than the "please give us a call" like we get.

So you are a scheduler. What cuts has your department seen? Any talk there in the SOCC about moving that part of the operation to MSP?

captainv 02-24-2009 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by outofwork (Post 565939)
I just cant see how that's possible...we are BARELY getting by with current crew staffing levels, CVG was down to 1 LC yesterday afternoon...I just cant see how they can expect to operate a RELIABLE operation with bare bones staffing.

That has more to do with how we utilize reserves. Seems like we have a higher percentage of pilots on reserve than virtually any other regional. If we scheduled the way other airlines do, assigning every hour of flying and saving reserves for sick calls and displacements, (not to mention assigning one reserve to cover a trip instead of sending a new crew member every couple of legs) we could operate a lot more efficiently.

I'd be curious to hear the scheduler's perspective on this. i wouldn't be surprised if the IT in that department prevented us from optimizing how it runs.

Big Foot 02-24-2009 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by outofwork (Post 565939)
I just cant see how that's possible...we are BARELY getting by with current crew staffing levels, CVG was down to 1 LC yesterday afternoon...I just cant see how they can expect to operate a RELIABLE operation with bare bones staffing.

That is what they want. They failed if they did not use every crew. All other airlines have reserves ready to go, ours all have rest issues and are used. But they call this place Comair not Big Foot Air.

TurboDog 02-24-2009 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by outofwork (Post 565939)
I just cant see how that's possible...we are BARELY getting by with current crew staffing levels, CVG was down to 1 LC yesterday afternoon...I just cant see how they can expect to operate a RELIABLE operation with bare bones staffing.

It could easily be done if we were all getting line values like we use to.

irrelevant 02-24-2009 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by TurboDog (Post 565954)
It could easily be done if we were all getting line values like we use to.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

Comair Management to ALPA: We want to extend minimum line values to prevent more furloughs.

ALPA: What's it worth to you?

Comair Management: Well we're not going to give you anything for it, but it might save twenty or so pilot jobs.

ALPA: Sorry. That concession has expired. You'll have to come up with something better.

Comair Management to Delta: They didn't fall for it again. With all our lineholders flying a minimum of 82 hours now, we're going to have reserve pilots left over at the end of the day...almost every day!

Delta: Hmmm, we can't have that. How about if we give you a ten percent increase in flying to cover the ten percent increase in minimum line value?

Comair Management: Hmmm, that would allow us to still not have any reserves left over at the end of the day...sounds great!

:rolleyes:

ComairFO 02-24-2009 05:15 AM

Comair is what it is because D.S. can't sleep at night if there is ANY reserve sitting at home doing nothing and still getting paid guarantee. As a result, planners and schedulers are forced to make things more complicated than they really are and the whole operation circles down the drain.

As far as staffing, I have got to believe that it would be worth our while to carry a "little extra fat" during the spring and summer months, especially with JFK/northeast so easily disturbed by weather and other abnormalities. Whether that leads to recalls is above my paygrade, but right now the math is not adding up.

mosquito 02-24-2009 06:01 AM

Any one is wondering how this displacement will change the face of the Union? Now that JFK will have a larger pilot base does that mean we have to have a new mec?

Just wondering I do not know how all this union stuff works.


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