Comair updates?
Hello everyone. Hey I know this has been beaten to bare feet, but I jumpseated in on Comair yesterday, and was told to update my stuff at airline apps. I fellow pilot told me that Comair is about to ramp up hiring again due to the fact of sooooooo many pilots leaving, even with lower mins they can't get enough to replace the attrition. I also heard once they restart, mins are going to go to Comm. Inst. ME.
Any truth to the rumor ?? What have you heard? Thanks. |
It is true there is alot of attrition here right now. Last month 30 pilots left. We have been averaging about that many for at least 6 months. Last months breakdown was 10 CA and 20 FO.
We are scheduled for 3 new hire classes in October after only having 1 in August and 2 in September. Pilot Vacancy bid closes today with 34 captain upgrades. (Company memo says expect 60 more upgrades in first quarter of 08.) Havent heard anything about new hiring mins. |
Rumor is that hiring will increase to 50/month in october and beyond.
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I just quit there so that is one more opening;) FO that is.
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Originally Posted by garritto
(Post 225898)
Rumor is that hiring will increase to 50/month in october and beyond.
I don't see how that is possible, or why. it seems to me that there are plenty of FO's. I haven't been flying in over 2 weeks. i was on for 6 days 1 off and now im on the back side of 5 days on. and nothing-- no trips in open time or anything..This seems to be the norm from all the people i have talked to. even new hires just off IOE have been doing nothing.. usually they want to fly them first to get there 100.. so who knows--time will tell i guess:confused: |
Originally Posted by riddlegrad
(Post 225915)
I don't see how that is possible, or why. it seems to me that there are plenty of FO's. I haven't been flying in over 2 weeks. i was on for 6 days 1 off and now im on the back side of 5 days on. and nothing-- no trips in open time or anything..This seems to be the norm from all the people i have talked to. even new hires just off IOE have been doing nothing.. usually they want to fly them first to get there 100.. so who knows--time will tell i guess:confused:
JFK is way overstaffed with FO's I hear new hires are going to start going to CVG....just a rumor around here though... I didnt fly for over 20 days, right after IOE, let me tell u, that was interesting considaring i only had like 40 hours in the plane.... |
Not flying on reserve is a good thing.
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I've been flying quite a bit since IOE. Just about to hit 100 hours. I'm at JFK too. I pretty much got this whole month already scheduled, except a few days with nothing yet. But I have heard that others guys aren't flying as much. Just hold on to your 100 hour sheet a little longer :) You just won't be able to fly into DCA, like I have been about every trip. But yeah, it seems they have too many guys on reserve in JFK. However my CA right now, said he's been called out just about everyday! We'll just wait till winter and the weather displaces everyone.
As far as hiring, I'm not sure whats going on these days. I'm really hoping for a Boston base to open. I'd take that in a second. But "due to staffing" thats not happening. |
What's driving the mass exodus right now?
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Seems everyone I know or heard of that has left has been hired by a major or fractional company. Most guys that said they'd leave "as soon as we get the bankruptcy pay-out" are probably leaving now and in the near future. You couldn't expect people to leave the day after the pay-out, as we all know in this industry its a long drawn out process to find and get a job and you'd be silly to leave without another job lined up.
Also, the 4-5+ year upgrade and long reserve times in CVG and JFK (Captains) is probably driving the desire to search elsewhere. |
what are the time requirments.. are they still 600/100??
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They are not hard on the 600/100, I heard of a guy with like 390 and a commercial multi
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Would there have been a CRJ course involved in that newhire?
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Originally Posted by Joepa84
(Post 226147)
Would there have been a CRJ course involved in that newhire?
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I am junior in CVG but last month broke guarntee and flew every day available except for one. Friends in JFK say if nothing is preassigned on their line they sit.
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I think I am going to be on reserve forever.........I am JFK
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Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 226219)
I think I am going to be on reserve forever.........I am JFK
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Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 226219)
I think I am going to be on reserve forever.........I am JFK
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
(Post 226192)
Yes, that or they had a type rating of some kind. In my class everyone is close to the published minumums or over except for some of the folks that have type ratings and/or CRJ courses.
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
(Post 226384)
So Diver, I'm typed in the Shorts 360, should I give Comair a call or just build a little more time? Anyone, feel free to answer.
Well auto if your times are close to 6 and 1 which I'm not sure of, but you got a type and prior 121 experience in the shorts?? Welcome to comair- If comair is were you want to be that is..:) Just put your stuff in it cannot hurt. |
Sort of related. Pilot vacancy bid awards.
CR7 CA - 4/2000 DOH CVG CA - 12/2001 DOH JFK CA - 11/2002 DOH New hire FO could pretty much hold either base and within just a few months hold the 70/90. |
Originally Posted by Speedbird172
(Post 226268)
I'm not sure which class you are, I'm 7/30; another class started last Monday 8/27 and I believe another is starting this coming Monday, so hiring is starting to speed up again. Hopefully this will reduce reserve a bit.
Yeah but a class a month is not like what it was when I was hired and it was 4 classes a month, we were just counting each week how many people we had under us, and then BAM.....hiring slows..... I started class early may, been off IOE since beginning of August....Take a look at numbers on those transfers...... when people above you go to CVG, just as MANY if not more transfer in from MCO...so basically you stay in the same spot...I hope my math is off, but from what it shows I will be on reserve for a very long time |
Originally Posted by ladder1423
(Post 225913)
I just quit there so that is one more opening;) FO that is.
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Lets just put it this way.. I was hired in on 1/15 completed IOE in april, sat a few months of reserve, held a line for two months, and now I'm one of the most senior reserve guys in JFK. Next month approx. 9 GSO guys are coming followed by 12 MCO guys in November. So I have gone from holding a line to being displaced 20 from a line in 2 months. As far as being on reserve forever..I could see that for anyone hired from May on. I would expect at least 9+ months company wide.
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Originally Posted by IFLY21
(Post 226611)
Lets just put it this way.. I was hired in on 1/15 completed IOE in april, sat a few months of reserve, held a line for two months, and now I'm one of the most senior reserve guys in JFK. Next month approx. 9 GSO guys are coming followed by 12 MCO guys in November. So I have gone from holding a line to being displaced 20 from a line in 2 months. As far as being on reserve forever..I could see that for anyone hired from May on. I would expect at least 9+ months company wide.
I knew this was going to happen, my math was right..... At least for you when the MCO guys come, a ton of FO's below you are leaving (my class, and the class ahead of me, like ALL of them)..... I shoulda got a crashpad, this driving up to Ny everyday to SIT is killing me |
Hey guys don't get to down on this sitting around stuff. This is historically one of if not the slowest months for every airline.
Right around the time those MCO guys are supposed to transfer the block hours will start to pick up again for the holidays. Also don't forget that yes those MCO guys are transferring, but the flying out of that base was not lost. The block hours from the base have to go somewhere. If you look at the MCO bid packets for the last several months most of the trips started out or ended with a deadhead so basically the guys were deadheading to a JFK or CVG trip and picking up a baulk of their schedules in and out of the other bases. So the block hours should follow the transfers. Fly Safe :) |
Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 226738)
I knew this was going to happen, my math was right..... At least for you when the MCO guys come, a ton of FO's below you are leaving (my class, and the class ahead of me, like ALL of them)..... I shoulda got a crashpad, this driving up to Ny everyday to SIT is killing me
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I went back to CVG in june and have not been flying at al. 35 hours in July 20 in August. I have not flown since the 16th of August. I have not even sat a ready since then. I seem to be sitting right on the edge of getting a line. It seems like they are transfering more people to CVG but not giving anymore lines out. Then they go and change my L2 window to an A4 so I am sitting in a hotel for 2 days and not getting called...kinda sucks but oh well
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Originally Posted by cessna126
(Post 226890)
I went back to CVG in june and have not been flying at al. 35 hours in July 20 in August. I have not flown since the 16th of August. I have not even sat a ready since then. I seem to be sitting right on the edge of getting a line. It seems like they are transfering more people to CVG but not giving anymore lines out. Then they go and change my L2 window to an A4 so I am sitting in a hotel for 2 days and not getting called...kinda sucks but oh well
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It's all based on call out order. I dont bid to fly and being senior on reserve I dont get any flights added at the beginning of the month. Being on L2 it is kind of limited on how they can use you. Also inverse order of seniority means I have around 50 people that are junior to me. And with the decrease in block hours it only means less flying. I wish they would of offered a COLA for CVG FO's like they did in JFK.
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 226749)
Hey guys don't get to down on this sitting around stuff. This is historically one of if not the slowest months for every airline.
Right around the time those MCO guys are supposed to transfer the block hours will start to pick up again for the holidays. Also don't forget that yes those MCO guys are transferring, but the flying out of that base was not lost. The block hours from the base have to go somewhere. If you look at the MCO bid packets for the last several months most of the trips started out or ended with a deadhead so basically the guys were deadheading to a JFK or CVG trip and picking up a baulk of their schedules in and out of the other bases. So the block hours should follow the transfers. Fly Safe :) Fly Safe! |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 226979)
1600 hour increase in block hours in JFK for Oct. Enjoy your lines!
Fly Safe! what!!!!!where did you hear this nonsense?? :eek::eek: |
look in the bid packet. They just came out!
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I hope that `1600 hrs extra flight time helps me get off reserve. What are you guys gona try to bid? I was gona bid MD off to get all my days off in a row but that might not be the smartest thing if they will be giving lines out (I HOPE).
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How do you tell?
I was wondering if there is any way of telling whether or not I'll be able to hold line ahead of time?
The Chow |
PLEASE more flying to JFK....please sweet jesus!!! I Cant sit on Staten Island another day
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Even if we don't get lines, the increase in block hours should mean more flying for us reserve guys...shouldn't it?
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I don't understand the call list either. I got off IOE in mid August and broke guarantee by a fair amt. last month. I have been on reserve since and have flown all but 1 day. My classmates have not received 1 trip until an out & back yesterday. I'm already up there to my 75, while everyone else hasn't flown since IOE. Hotel beds beat the crashpad though!!
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I think the call outs go something like this:
Low time (less than 100 hours) Day match Bid to fly Inverse seniority 60 hours credit for the month |
Originally Posted by down2mins
(Post 227324)
I don't understand the call list either. I got off IOE in mid August and broke guarantee by a fair amt. last month. I have been on reserve since and have flown all but 1 day. My classmates have not received 1 trip until an out & back yesterday. I'm already up there to my 75, while everyone else hasn't flown since IOE. Hotel beds beat the crashpad though!!
Makes me so mad........ I have like 50 hours in the plane and been off IOE WELL over a month...they hate me |
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