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Originally Posted by cessna126
(Post 227353)
I think the call outs go something like this:
Low time (less than 100 hours) Day match Bid to fly Inverse seniority 60 hours credit for the month 60% of the reserves are in the short call window 40% of the reserves are in the long call windows Makes it very difficult to schedule wonder why it seems as if your tagged everytime you come into CVG, why we dont drop anything. yea there people at home but when you have a 9hr call out well alot of good they do. Let alone a 12hr call out. September is a slow month to begin with so hopefully is picks up and we will be back in business. PAOK. We dont hate you guys |
FTR - Are you a scheduler?
I was really excited with my schedule this month...lol, bid Long Call so I could get out and see the family and friends a little but mysteriously I have ready reserves scheduled at the begining and end of my Long call windows which forces me to stay in cvg all the time...I would be p/o'd if I was a commuter with this schedule, thank god I moved to CVG All in all I still enjoy Comair, its really not that bad not flying much, and getting paid the same...it allows for more pool time ;) although I would still prefer to break minimum each month, when my seniority reaches a point where I can upgrade I probably won't have the required flight time, if things keep going this way. |
I spent 2 plus years on reserve and the lowest I flew was 30 hours one month (December of 2005, when it got really ugly here). Most were in the 70 plus range. I woulda killed to sit at home like some people are right now. |
Whoa hey, I am not complaining...its kind of nice actually especially with it being summer time, (Sitting at home that is) like I said earlier, I am concerned about not having enought TT to upgrade when My seniority number comes around...
Also we are getting trips but they tend to be unproductive which I am sure we all know, again for some people it is nice, personnally If I am on the road flying, I want to fly...once I get home, I want to sit. Some of the frustration is in the 10-12 hour 4 day trips, it is hard to get to minimum with productivity like that. Life is good, no real complaints |
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
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Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
(Post 227618)
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
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Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
(Post 227618)
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
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what's up guys and gals...
So are Comair planning to lower the multi time minimums or what?!!.. I have over 1000TT and am slllllooooowwwwlllllyyyyy building the 'ol multi.....a couple of my buds got in with like 60-80 multi around easter time. In any case a lil birdie told me they were planning to drop the mins to a wet comm multi certificate... JayHub. |
Originally Posted by JayHub
(Post 227718)
In any case a lil birdie told me they were planning to drop the mins to a wet comm multi certificate...
JayHub. |
Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
(Post 227618)
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
(Post 227750)
All offers subject to change. Participation may vary. All applications will be accepted. JFK crash pad on approved credit. Minimum 6 month reserve, plus tax, title, documentation and uniform. See airline for details.
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Originally Posted by flyandive
(Post 227753)
What about the cardboard box under the bridge? I hear it's nice and warm too.
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And fries...
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Originally Posted by ftrpilot
(Post 227515)
Hit the nail on the head
60% of the reserves are in the short call window 40% of the reserves are in the long call windows Makes it very difficult to schedule wonder why it seems as if your tagged everytime you come into CVG, why we dont drop anything. yea there people at home but when you have a 9hr call out well alot of good they do. Let alone a 12hr call out. September is a slow month to begin with so hopefully is picks up and we will be back in business. PAOK. We dont hate you guys |
The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.
I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to. It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training. |
Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
(Post 227618)
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
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20 more pilots left the company last month according to the October bid packet.
10 CA's 10 FO's |
Originally Posted by skyknight
(Post 228389)
The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.
I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to. It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training. Explain to me maybe my math is not that great but I assume you are not on First Year Pay, Thus I am going out on a limb and say you are getting paid $35 per hour, if your gurantee is 75 hours that equates to about $2600 per month taking 30 % for taxes leaves you with about $1800 per month now if you get about $400 for per diam that would total about $2200 per month I dont know if you choose to drop everything on your line or what your situation is but you should be making no less than $2200 per month and thats just with the monthly gurantee. I dont know maybe my math is all wrong, On another note Keep the RUMOR going, thats what keeps this industry intresting he say she say LOL got to love it, Fly Safe |
Originally Posted by DominAirTrix
(Post 227618)
I'm in class now and they are telling us 24 newhires a month from now until summer next year.
DomainAirTrix - where are they sending guys after their checkrides - still JFK? I'm in the 9/24 class. If you want JFK, will you get it? |
Originally Posted by skyknight
(Post 228389)
The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.
I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to. It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training. Not breaking $1000 on 5th year pay? I don't think so. On the flip side, I know a guy who is 2nd year and walked away (take home) over $3000 in one check. So, its all what you make of it. |
Originally Posted by Ripeagle
(Post 228545)
DomainAirTrix - where are they sending guys after their checkrides - still JFK? I'm in the 9/24 class. If you want JFK, will you get it?
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Just placed my bid today in the 8/27 class. We all got JFK, standing bids for CVG were placed by about half the class. They speculate we could get it by the end of the year... not sure how accurate that is though...
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i'm in the 9/10 (Diver, we met at lunch with my friend Chris)..I'm almost expecting an ironic Boston base just cause of all the hype and speculation around it..which of course would be ironic due to the fact i just moved from there..go figure
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I'm in the 7/30 class and was just awarded CVG, but not untill Feb...
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Originally Posted by par8head
(Post 227528)
FTR - Are you a scheduler?
I was really excited with my schedule this month...lol, bid Long Call so I could get out and see the family and friends a little but mysteriously I have ready reserves scheduled at the begining and end of my Long call windows which forces me to stay in cvg all the time...I would be p/o'd if I was a commuter with this schedule, thank god I moved to CVG All in all I still enjoy Comair, its really not that bad not flying much, and getting paid the same...it allows for more pool time ;) although I would still prefer to break minimum each month, when my seniority reaches a point where I can upgrade I probably won't have the required flight time, if things keep going this way. |
para8
Thanks for your p.m. I try to be fair as much as I can. Remember Sept typically is a slow month. Alot of guys flew there Ass off last month then we just slowed down. However all the extrafly we have been given away we are going to pay for it in nov and dec so enjoy it while its slow. I know personally I am. Im sorry about the rude scheduler you encountered. we recently lose a scheduler who was a problem for everyone fly safe God Speed Keep Capt. Tarter in your prayers |
Originally Posted by ftrpilot
(Post 228666)
However all the extrafly we have been given away we are going to pay for it in nov and dec so enjoy it while its slow. I know personally I am. |
Originally Posted by ftrpilot
(Post 228666)
we recently lose a scheduler who was a problem for everyone |
Originally Posted by Ripeagle
(Post 228545)
DomainAirTrix - where are they sending guys after their checkrides - still JFK? I'm in the 9/24 class. If you want JFK, will you get it?
But it was also said that reserve at JFK would be just a few months, that does not seem to jive with what those of you who are already there are saying, though perhaps that was meant to be true after the hiring increase? How did youze other guys hear that? And yeah, I'm in 8/27 with ya <wink>... |
I went to Skywest, I was only at Comair 6 months.
Originally Posted by ERJ Driver
(Post 226482)
Hey man, is it ok if I ask where you are going? Lateral move or up the food chain?
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You make me feel even better about leaving after only 6 months. I knew that place wasn't for me. The pilots were awesome to fly with but management has no clue what the hell is going on.
Originally Posted by skyknight
(Post 228389)
The question was asked "why the mass exodus" a while back. QOL, morale, money, better outlook elsewhere, you name it. I know 3 guys with nearly 4 years exp. who went to Pinnacle to get Capt. awards. I know they have slowed this now, but thats a lot of seniority to lose for a lateral move (even if it is for an upgrade). Still, I concidered it too.
I didn't start looking until they cancelled my upgrade (along with nearly 80 others). Then I decided I was done here. After a 13% paycut and nearly 20% reduction in flying over the summer, as well as losing 2-3 days off per month with the crappy lines they are putting out, I just couldn't see staying around any more. You would think with nearly 5 years here and bidding in the top 10% in the seat you could get a good schedule, but you would be wrong. On top of that, my last few pay checks have not broken $1000. And I am not the only one that has happened to. It appears management is trying to take a page from Mesa's management book. They are telling senior people they aren't wanted any more while having trouble filling new hire classes if they stick to their published minimums. One rumor has them looking at private multi quals. You can get your commercial when you take your checkride in the sim at the end of training. |
Originally Posted by ftrpilot
(Post 228666)
we recently lose a scheduler who was a problem for everyone
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Originally Posted by andy171773
(Post 228627)
i'm in the 9/10 (Diver, we met at lunch with my friend Chris)..I'm almost expecting an ironic Boston base just cause of all the hype and speculation around it..which of course would be ironic due to the fact i just moved from there..go figure
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I know lots of guys (and gals) that believe BOS will open sometime by the start of summer 08. I've heard (rumor...) that the company thought it would be insulting to the GSO/MCO crews to open BOS right after closing down the other two bases. But, when has the company ever thought about insulting us before?
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Originally Posted by dbo861
(Post 228671)
Could you elaborate a little more on this?
:eek: no jim murray went to delta and the new director scott miller i think, he came from crew forcasting Ill miss talkin with you guys ill be moving up to the tower soon, hopefully if the interview goes well tommorow, then when im financially set ill make the jump into the cockpit of the wonderful Canadair Regional Jet 200 seriers, brought to you Bombardier. Then again life on reserve is hell |
Originally Posted by ftrpilot
(Post 229226)
already there have been several instances where 100 hr have been obtained, and some are quickly on track to 1000 hr sometimes it pays to ben in the right spot at the right time.
:eek: no jim murray went to delta and the new director scott miller i think, he came from crew forcasting Ill miss talkin with you guys ill be moving up to the tower soon, hopefully if the interview goes well tommorow, then when im financially set ill make the jump into the cockpit of the wonderful Canadair Regional Jet 200 seriers, brought to you Bombardier. Then again life on reserve is hell |
Originally Posted by flyandive
(Post 229336)
Jim Murray, awesome guy and I wish him luck at Delta. Anyway, I'll be kind of sad not to hear your perspective from scheduling but I wish you good luck on your interview. I sat with those ramp tower guys for a couple hours as an intern. Some hard working people that can be underappreaciated if you have no idea the multitasking that they have to do. Good luck on your career and keep posting.
FLYANDIVE are u a newhire or have you been at comair awhile? THANKS |
ftrpilot,
How much longer before we see you on the line? |
Originally Posted by cessna126
(Post 229357)
ftrpilot,
How much longer before we see you on the line? looking at about 8-9 mo to get the finances in order slow processe but hey we all got to start somewhere. |
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