Originally Posted by CRJDriver
(Post 867394)
We ended up finding a pretty nice hotel that costs the same as the crappy, run-down hotels in the same area, I'm surprised not more crews are staying here, but people are too lazy to do any research.
Most hotels in this area will let you 'rent' a room (some have suites) and run it as a crashpad, meaning you can re-arrange it and stick as many people in it as you want. I've heard some guys renting a room with 6-8 people in it. Most I've heard is 11. That's ok if you have a bunch of lineholder, but on reserve.... the last thing I want to do is sit reserve in a room with 6 other dudes. There are currently 3 in my pad and we are looking for one more, but that'll be it! The rent will be about the same as a crashpad in JFK ($200-$250). Shuttle service 24/7, free continental breakfast, bunch of restaurants in the area. Beats camping out in the crew room... What's the name of the place?. I might be interested. PM me |
Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
(Post 867381)
Does anyone know who is going to offer us preferential interviews? I have heard we do get preferential interviews with Delta. Does anyone know of any others?
Also, in the past month I think there were around 6 guys that interviewed there...none hired. One guy told me that when he interviewed, the 2 DAL captains never looked up from their note pad and seemed disinterested in him. |
Originally Posted by Ohiocrjfo
(Post 867361)
I don't call scheduling. I make them call me.
Unless you want to fly more.... By not calling scheduling, you're putting yourself back into your window, subjecting yourself to flying. By calling them, you're giving them the "now or never" option: Use me or release me. Your decision there... |
Originally Posted by Lowlevel
(Post 867445)
Are you sure about DAL? SB was in the crew room in DTW and he stated that they were trying to get DAL to give us preferential interviews
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
(Post 867445)
Are you sure about DAL? SB was in the crew room in DTW and he stated that they were trying to get DAL to give us preferential interviews, but DAL has not budged on it yet.
Also, in the past month I think there were around 6 guys that interviewed there...none hired. One guy told me that when he interviewed, the 2 DAL captains never looked up from their note pad and seemed disinterested in him. Preferential Interviews...it's in the Delta PWA for furloughed ALPA pilots. We enforced that clause through this last hiring cycle. DAL already budged. Comair pilots interviewed and were hired at the same rate as other DCI carriers. Comparitively fewer total OH pilots applied for DL positions, but they were interviewed and hired at the same rate as other carriers. |
There is a Comair FO that was hired by Delta. I heard it from him myself.
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 867463)
I can't speak to how the interviewers treated the guy who told you his story, but the rest of your post is wrong.
Preferential Interviews...it's in the Delta PWA for furloughed ALPA pilots. We enforced that clause through this last hiring cycle. DAL already budged. Comair pilots interviewed and were hired at the same rate as other DCI carriers. Comparitively fewer total OH pilots applied for DL positions, but they were interviewed and hired at the same rate as other carriers. I do know one OH pilot that was hired there. |
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
(Post 867381)
Does anyone know who is going to offer us preferential interviews? I have heard we do get preferential interviews with Delta. Does anyone know of any others?
Honest question, since that was a massive slap in the face to delta, oh and then that strike thingy too..... almost forgot about that one, delta loved that. |
Originally Posted by Confused
(Post 867562)
Why would delta give Comair preferential interviews? Did Comair's forcing of furloughed delta pilots to resign their number at delta after 9/11 furloughs just get forgotten recently so now they love Comair?
Honest question, since that was a massive slap in the face to delta, oh and then that strike thingy too..... almost forgot about that one, delta loved that. Also keep in mind that Delta, DALPA, Delta pilots, Comair pilots, Comair, and the Comair MEC are 6* different entities. Like "Survivor" there are various alliances and hatreds, and they often change weekly. *Well, 5 if you believe that all Comair pilots always support everything that the MEC does or says. |
Originally Posted by Confused
(Post 867562)
...that was a massive slap in the face to delta, oh and then that strike thingy too..... almost forgot about that one, delta loved that.
Or you could post the argument that hiring Comair pilots would lower labor costs and Comair could make more $$$ for Delta. Hiring SkyWest, Eagle, or Horizon pilots does nothing to improve Delta's bottom line. Or you could offer that since the last 4 Comair presidents came from Delta or went to Delta, maybe Delta really loves Comair after all. That would be quite a stretch, but what the heck? In any case, thanks for stopping by the Comair Updates thread to cheer us up. |
Originally Posted by Confused
(Post 867562)
Why would delta give Comair preferential interviews? Did Comair's forcing of furloughed delta pilots to resign their number at delta after 9/11 furloughs just get forgotten recently so now they love Comair?
Honest question, since that was a massive slap in the face to delta, oh and then that strike thingy too..... almost forgot about that one, delta loved that. Secondly, I was hired in 2007. As much as you hate me because I'm a Comair person, I'm not the one you should hate. You should blame the senior guys ( they aren't on This thread) Perhaps you hate the senior people? Well, we have something in common. I've been furloughed twice at Comair ( yes, I'm that lucky) both times senior folks have been kind enough to say "screw the junior guys, I'll be fine and that's what's important." so, the same guys who said horrible things to the Delta pilots who were furoughed also said some ****ty things to us Junior guys. Thirdly, you clearly don't like Comair people. We are screwed and out of a job. What more do you want from us? We are all junior and want to move on. |
Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
(Post 867692)
First of all, I'm drunk.
Secondly, I was hired in 2007. As much as you hate me because I'm a Comair person, I'm not the one you should hate. You should blame the senior guys ( they aren't on This thread) Perhaps you hate the senior people? Well, we have something in common. I've been furloughed twice at Comair ( yes, I'm that lucky) both times senior folks have been kind enough to say "screw the junior guys, I'll be fine and that's what's important." so, the same guys who said horrible things to the Delta pilots who were furoughed also said some ****ty things to us Junior guys. Thirdly, you clearly don't like Comair people. We are screwed and out of a job. What more do you want from us? We are all junior and want to move on. First of all I don’t drink. Secondly, I was hired at Comair in 2005 as a ramp agent while I worked on my ratings. One of the first things I learned working on the ramp was this: What’s black about 18-24 inches long and usually attached to a D*CK?? A Comair pilots tie!! That was funny I don’t care who you are! Oh and feel free to change tie color and airline it works! I still care about my old company (Comair) so I read this often. Maybe I’m the only one who has noticed but a lot (not everyone) when they have something good to say it goes something like this: "WE worked hard to get an industry leading contract" but when it something bad its almost always THEY. IMHO you decided to work at Comair anything that has happened or will happen you are part of it. You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose and you can pick where you work. When I was on the ramp I talked to anyone and everyone I could about flying and without a doubt the friendliest and most helpful were the Freedom pilots, followed by Chata….Chatalk…Shatalkw……REPUBLIC pilots, then ASA and Comair guys (young or old) NEVER were nice or helpful. WHY????? This is how I see the WE/THEY thing (as an outsider now). I jumpseated on Comair many times I would say 9 out of 10 were perfect but I was taken off more then once for weight and balance issues (with several open seats). I Comair pilot jumpseater who wasn’t there when the plane pushed back and so on. Yes those were all senior guys (Captains) but I’ve said hello to many young guys who didn’t answer or turned their backs and one time I got on the plane the Captain greeted with so much warmth I thought it was a set up for something! I put my hand out to introduce myself to the young FO he literally rolled his eyes and turned away. My point??? I forgot……no wait…..I have a hard time finding the line between senior/junior Comair guys from how you treat other DCI pilots I'm sure Delta guys have a hard time too. So much talk about not getting hired at Delta, sorry but if you were hired at Comair in 2007 most will not be qualified so don’t stress over what Delta a few Delta pilots who post on here say. Worry about other regional guys that were treated like crap by Comair, young and old. They are the ones you have to deal with in the near future when you go for another job. You have a few more months to work for Comair instead of saying “poor me” look at it as an opportunity to explore other options and make friends with those who can help you out. You get to do what most can’t: See what’s going to happen in the future. Good luck to all |
Originally Posted by GearMover
(Post 867711)
First of all I don’t drink.
Secondly, I was hired at Comair in 2005 as a ramp agent while I worked on my ratings. One of the first things I learned working on the ramp was this: What’s black about 18-24 inches long and usually attached to a D*CK?? A Comair pilots tie!! That was funny I don’t care who you are! Oh and feel free to change tie color and airline it works! I still care about my old company (Comair) so I read this often. Maybe I’m the only one who has noticed but a lot (not everyone) when they have something good to say it goes something like this: "WE worked hard to get an industry leading contract" but when it something bad its almost always THEY. IMHO you decided to work at Comair anything that has happened or will happen you are part of it. You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose and you can pick where you work. When I was on the ramp I talked to anyone and everyone I could about flying and without a doubt the friendliest and most helpful were the Freedom pilots, followed by Chata….Chatalk…Shatalkw……REPUBLIC pilots, then ASA and Comair guys (young or old) NEVER were nice or helpful. WHY????? This is how I see the WE/THEY thing (as an outsider now). I jumpseated on Comair many times I would say 9 out of 10 were perfect but I was taken off more then once for weight and balance issues (with several open seats). I Comair pilot jumpseater who wasn’t there when the plane pushed back and so on. Yes those were all senior guys (Captains) but I’ve said hello to many young guys who didn’t answer or turned their backs and one time I got on the plane the Captain greeted with so much warmth I thought it was a set up for something! I put my hand out to introduce myself to the young FO he literally rolled his eyes and turned away. My point??? I forgot……no wait…..I have a hard time finding the line between senior/junior Comair guys from how you treat other DCI pilots I'm sure Delta guys have a hard time too. So much talk about not getting hired at Delta, sorry but if you were hired at Comair in 2007 most will not be qualified so don’t stress over what Delta a few Delta pilots who post on here say. Worry about other regional guys that were treated like crap by Comair, young and old. They are the ones you have to deal with in the near future when you go for another job. You have a few more months to work for Comair instead of saying “poor me” look at it as an opportunity to explore other options and make friends with those who can help you out. You get to do what most can’t: See what’s going to happen in the future. Good luck to all |
Originally Posted by cessna157
(Post 867459)
Scheduling very rarely will call you and release you to rest, unless you're on a Ready or something.
By not calling scheduling, you're putting yourself back into your window, subjecting yourself to flying. By calling them, you're giving them the "now or never" option: Use me or release me. Your decision there... |
Originally Posted by GearMover
(Post 867711)
Comair guys (young or old) NEVER were nice or helpful. WHY?????
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Originally Posted by ReadyToQuit
(Post 867465)
There is a Comair FO that was hired by Delta. I heard it from him myself.
Recently? Was he a prior captain? |
I know of 2 former YV FO's that are now with DAL. Neither had Ca experience. Both were outstanding FO's during their four+ yrs at YV.
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In my best computer speak -- this is JMHO FWIW.
The "Delta hates Comair" thing is overblown. Delta hires Comair pilots. I've flown with some. There is a relatively small group of senior Comair pilots who made some very mean spirited and offensive political decisions a few years ago. You all know what I'm talking about. If those guys were hired (or even interviewed) at Delta it would cause an uproar. They know who they are. I doubt they'd even bother to apply. For the vast majority of Comair pilots -- If you want to fly at Delta, get your app in. |
Originally Posted by cessna157
(Post 867269)
The quick and dirty version:
Let's say your on A4, 8am-10pm Day 4 of your trip, you report at 9am and block into CVG at 4pm, released at 4:20pm. If you do not talk to scheduling at all, you are back into your window, subject to be called back, until the close of your window at 10pm, also subject to 13.5 hours from 9am. If you talk to scheduling and they have nothing else for you and you are released, you are released to rest at 4:20pm for 10 hours, or until 2:20am (which is then outside of your window), so you're done until your next window). Basically, what happens when you don't call scheduling when you get back, you are released into your window, subject to call out within the 13 1/2 hour duty day and/or end of window. But I thought I remember reading that even if you are in an A4 window and report at 6am, you can only be used until 7:30pm duty wise, but they can still call you to notify you of a trip until 10pm (but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). It gets tricky when you report and release before your window even starts. If I remember correctly, you are released into 10 hours of rest, then into whatever remains of your window. This is usually only common for the A6 window and beyond, but I guess it possible for the A5 and maybe A4 for a super early flight. The moral of the story, if you finish a trip and nothing is on your line, it's probably in your best interest to call scheduling and get something else or get released. They've been really good at just releasing into rest lately. |
So much for the guys that have been saying SB is going to leave...
Posted on Epic: The consolidated organization will be led by SB, who will assume the role of director of Training and report to Allen Messick, vice president of Maintenance, effective November 1. |
Originally Posted by Spoilers
(Post 867884)
So much for the guys that have been saying SB is going to leave...
Posted on Epic: The consolidated organization will be led by SB, who will assume the role of director of Training and report to Allen Messick, vice president of Maintenance, effective November 1. |
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
(Post 867923)
That's great news, we should start hiring off the street very soon:)
We'll save $$ BILLIONS $$!!!! |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 868307)
Combine all the mechanics, dispatchers, inflight, and pilots into one training system, then put a pilot (SB) in charge of the whole thing, and a mechanic (AM) in charge of him, and a pilot (RG) in charge of him, and a mechanic (ng4) in charge of him... so simple, yet so genius!
We'll save $$ BILLIONS $$!!!! Mechs, dispatchers, inflight, and pilot training will be run by a pilot (SB) who will report to a mech (AM) who reports to a mech (ng4). SB does not report to RG anymore. Don't see saving more than millions at the most. |
Originally Posted by Confused
(Post 867562)
Why would delta give Comair preferential interviews? Did Comair's forcing of furloughed delta pilots to resign their number at delta after 9/11 furloughs just get forgotten recently so now they love Comair?
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Originally Posted by cslusarc
(Post 868561)
I am an economist and a potential investor in Delta stock. As an investor, I'd think that Delta would be self interested in hiring OH pilots to fill future vacancies at the mainline in order to lower labour costs at OH as they layoff OH's most junior and least paid pilots and flight attendants. I'd like to see DL hire the best 10 or so of the most mainline compatible pilots from OH each month.
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Originally Posted by cslusarc
(Post 868561)
I am an economist and a potential investor in Delta stock. As an investor, I'd think that Delta would be self interested in hiring OH pilots to fill future vacancies at the mainline in order to lower labour costs at OH as they layoff OH's most junior and least paid pilots and flight attendants. I'd like to see DL hire the best 10 or so of the most mainline compatible pilots from OH each month.
But be careful, if you can find your way to losing $billions in the airline industry, you might find yourself a career in airline management...or government! Just a thought... |
Originally Posted by NoStep
(Post 868798)
So, if you're an economist, why would you be looking to invest in airline stocks? With your grasp of the economy, I'd think you'd be better served investing in sectors with better margins...like weight-loss companies or the porn industry.
But be careful, if you can find your way to losing $billions in the airline industry, you might find yourself a career in airline management...or government! Just a thought... In any event, I commend the level of due dilligence he or she is making. |
Originally Posted by cslusarc
(Post 868561)
I'd like to see DL hire the best 10 or so of the most mainline compatible pilots from OH each month.
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 868905)
As a Delta pilot, and someone who would be working with these individuals, I'd rather the company hire the most competent pilots available nationwide.
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 868909)
You see Delta needs to screen for the best possible candidates...Pilots that know how to land on Taxiway Mike and overfly MSP by several hundred miles...Not just anyone can do that....:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 868919)
Or takeoff on the wrong runway.....ooops.
Well Bill, you aren't following the topic very well are you....Nobody said mistakes haven't been made at the regional level...However some of you double breasted "gods" like to point out how great the Delta screening process is..I'm not impressed. Those of us at ASA,CMR,Skyw, etc. aren't claiming to be perfect.....However you folks seem to think your $h!t don't stink...Be careful there.... |
However some of you double breasted "gods" like to point out how great the Delta screening process is..I'm not impressed. |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 868909)
You see Delta needs to screen for the best possible candidates...Pilots that know how to land on Taxiway Mike and overfly MSP by several hundred miles...Not just anyone can do that....:rolleyes:
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 868919)
Or takeoff on the wrong runway.....ooops.
FYI - JoeMerchant is not a Comair pilot, but does stop by from time to time. And thank you for your professionalism and compassion toward our lost crewmen and passengers. You stay classy! |
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
(Post 868909)
You see Delta needs to screen for the best possible candidates...Pilots that know how to land on Taxiway Mike and overfly MSP by several hundred miles...Not just anyone can do that....:rolleyes:
Joe, You forget that I was once an ASA pilot, was on the CASC, and still have several good friends in the ASA Trainning Dept. I am well aware of some "great" pilots still at ASA, not to mention some less than smart things done by pilots there. I, however, choose not to let the actions of a few overshadow the group as a whole. It's quite clear that you have a huge chip on your shoulder in regards to all things Delta. Why, I don't really care. The intent of my post was that I would rather the company hire the best possible out of a wider pool, rather than just limit ourselves to a smaller sample. As for what happened to the fNWA poolies, I was against that. However, the laywers got involved and politics reared it's ugly head. Every pilot group has its 1%ers. ASA is no different. They just don't make it in the papers as much. |
As for what happened to the fNWA poolies, I was against that. However, the laywers got involved and politics reared it's ugly head. |
Originally Posted by hiplainsdrifter
(Post 868960)
You're not impressed? How 'bout the Northwest Poolies who were quite competitive two in a half years ago, and many of us even more so now, job offered, but passed over in favor of demonstrably less qualified pilots, but who had "other" qualifications. There are many who are exceedingly underwhelmed by Delta Air Lines hiring practices.
Your comments remind me of the pilots at United that did all kind of things to keep Black- I mean minority pilots out of the cockpit or have those guys terminated by any means available. Discrimination is wrong- I don't care about the melatonin in your skin. If you engage in it- black, white, gender based, it's wrong!! I feel for those both black, white and gender pilots who were unjustly treat because of who they were, not being given a chance to prove thier worth to the organization because of hang ups like this. If your qaulified to fly that aircraft, and can do it safely, then by all mean fly it. Now some folks should never have been allowed near an aircraft, a guy named MARVIN comes to mind........ |
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