I just remember taxiing up in the Seminole at HAO and seeing you jumping into one of the 172s.

Not sold in MI or any east coast states...farthest east I have seen it is Nashville.

Nope they are all gone, "Stripes" was the first one to go.

I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain to drink some at a bar in Maine during a "work related sleepover".

Right, Delta doesn't have the money to give out ham certs, but they've got enough to strip and repaint a two-year old custom paint job that they paid triple for in the first place?

Why do SKW and ASA still have fancy custom paint jobs, I wonder? That's hardly one level of service.

Lol... ya, it happens. :D

Delta enlisted Comair in a psychological warfare a number of years ago. Little things like painting A/C and removing emblems from the back bulkhead on airplanes has disrupted the lives of many Comair crew members over the past number of years.

It's the little Jay Bird story. Delta just picks each one of Comair's feathers one by one just as a little boy watched another little boy pick all of a jay birds feathers out. When a different jay bird asked the tortured jay bird what he was going to do, he replied " I am just going to take it."

If you sit back and look at all of the tiny things that Delta has done to Comair, you will see that these tiny things that really don't, or shouldn't affect your lives, actually control it. It's like they brainwash you with propaganda as if you were a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton. How many times have you heard the rumors that the "Comair" was coming off of your wings, or that the carpet in your A/C was being changed to match another DCI carrier, or that a base was closing to create a merger, or that a page in your OPS manual had it's wording change because you were going to go down like a sinking ship......blah....blah....blah...

I know it's not easy, but if you all would stop wasting so much of your time looking into petty stuff like this, you would actually improve your QOL.

Does anyone know if these 15 or so VOL Furlough guys have to accept a recall this time?? I was reading in the Pilot Contract about certain VOL Furloughees having to accept a recall after certain stipulations, and wasn't sure if it applied here.

they can bypass until the most junior INVOL furloughee is recalled.

Then I would assume all but maybe one of these guys bypasses again since they just bypassed about 2 months ago....

It is sold in North Carolina. Such a tease since I live in Virginia and can't get it here yet.

Vacancy Bid to be posted on Friday, possibly Monday. 30 give or take a few upgrades expected.

So we get some news late last week and then have to go through a long weekend with tons of questions and scenarios and now it's Tuesday and no one has any news!?

Hey buddy, this getting you back to the left seat?

Heyy DD, I think it could however I am going evaluate certain scenarios and weigh pro's an cons. I need the money thats a huge Pro but there are other factors involved.
Vacancy bid is first on Friday then followed by a displacment bid. We'll see how it pans out....nonetheless I hope this brings you back :)

we should know more late this week or on monday. MP said in his email that June 2nd there will be a conference call to all furloughs at 8:30pm. So i think you can wait one more day.

I wonder if they are going to open DTW in stages. Like 1/2 the pilots Aug 1 then the rest Sept 1 (and vice versa for JFK, 1/2 leave on Aug 1, the rest Sept 1). It seems like doing it all at once is a bit much.

Until September 1st they can also, if they choose, decline recall even if the most junior involuntary furloughee has been recalled.

That's what they did with GSO.

That would be cool - displace 500 pilots over the course of two months, and each one asks for his contractual three move days, which totals some 1500 days off...

In other words, 25 pilots off on any given day during those two months - in addition to regular days off, sick calls, and vacations.

Sounds like standard DCI operational efficiency to me.

You guys get the Council 37 chairman's letter from EJ?

Sounds like ALPA's gonna take a vote on assessments to support the Jazz and Spirit pilots. According to the e-mail, for a Comair pilot making $50,000/year it works out to $8/month for the Spirit guys and $24 /month for the Jazz guys. I wonder if this is for a year (like our merger assessment) or just while they're on strike?

I love this part -

As the Chairman of Comair Council 37 I am asking all the pilots in this council to call or email a status representative and make your voice heard on this assessment, a lack of a call or email will be considered as a vote in favor.

I wasn't around to receive money during the OH strike, but I'd gladly give $24/month to help out another pilot group.

Much smaller base... I think it was 40-50 pilots in each seat when it closed.

+1

If I get recall I'll support it. All they are doing is helping all of the pilot group.

I got the feeling from MP email from last night that a lot of pilot will not take the recall. If you can pick your start date then that leads me to believe they may have about 50% acceptance. SuperpilotJesse maybe right with his acceptance rate, but that is me over analyzing things.

bigger question is if thats the case will we see more letters go out soon.

I think they will, we got to wait until june 7 for an update.

thats way to long lol. Vacancy bid is out on epic

Any of you guys know if you can change your bid as furlough for your desired base? Here's my hypothetical scenario;

I'm way down on the list for recalls and should the recall day come I would like to go to the DTW base (I'm currently a CVG furlough) following retraining.

If for some bizarre reason both bases are available (for my seniority level) I want to ensure I get DTW from the get go. Additionally, I don't want to be responsible for housing while in retaining and not get per diem because I'm 'home-based'.

Depends on the bids. If enough people transfer over to DTW you might see some recalls get assigned CVG. I dont know anything reassuring that will get you DTW base after being recalled.

Contract says you will go back to the base you were furloughed from. So on the company behalf you are screwed per diem and housing.

I can almost see it being managable if you only have to do a few weeks of retraining. What if you are in the group that is going to have to retake the entire 2 month training class? Do they really expect people that were furloughed do cough up that kind of money when they very well could have not had a job for a year and a half?

apparently they do. Remember they were willing to withhold are paychecks for uniform balance and some people didnt even get a check to feed themselves.

If you were CVG based before your furlough and you would be recalled right now, you would actually go to JFK. My guess is DTW will be like JFK and be the junior base. I believe CVG will always be senior. If you really want DTW, you can put it in your standing bid.

People that are getting recalled right now shouldn't even mess with their standing bid, because I believe a lot of current folks want to go back to CVG and you want to get displaced to DTW to get the moving expenses and moving days.

FAIL!

I was furloughed from cvg and in my recall letter said that I would be based in JFK. I just saw the follow up letter and it said that all recalled pilots will be getting a hotel and per diem (they assume none of us will be able to hold CVG).:p

It has nothing to do with that! For those getting recalled, I suggest you study your contract! :rolleyes:

That's going to be a nice paycheck.

That is the vacancy AWARD from the last bid, not a new bid reflecting the base changes.

So is that bid a waste since a new bid is about to happen

The thing is that I wouldn't be moving it's just an easier commute. I'd rather have my desired commute and base in order than risk going with the wrong base and be stuck with a crummy commute until the next bid cycle just to get a few extra days and a couple of bucks for a move that isn't occuring.

I do think that DTW will be like JFK in regards to seniority.

Guys, how about one thing at a time. No need to drive ourselves crazy with what we can/cannot get while we are "not officially in" yet.
Anyhow, just got a phone call from HR notifying me I'm in the June 13th class. I'm driving from MCO, so if any of you is in same class and would like a ride (MCO, GNV, ATL, CHA, or somewhere nearby), PM me. You'll get 5 weeks access to a vehicle while there (lord knows I'm going to need a DD on mondays after one dollar margaritas).