Who let you out of the cage again? I think we all get your message! Comair is going to crash and burn by the end of the year. You keep coming on here and keep playing the same song... We get it! Move on and worry about your own company and life! I've been in this industry long enough not to believe a damn thing that YOU, management or anyone else is telling me. If I get furloughed again, I'll be sure to send you a thank you note for the warning.

Well said......... filler filler

How about this? Instead of getting a BFR go get your 'G' rating. That way if you have to do a Sully & Skiles you'll have the training.

ASA doesn't have the resources? What kinda BS is that? Don't they have over a hundred on furlough? That makes no sense that Comair has more resources than ASA when they have been returning planes. You have got to be one of the last guys furloughed hoping to make it back one day.

Plus paying for 500 pilots moves if they want it including all furloughed pilots.

Dude, are you even a pilot for ASA?
You can get your answers tonight on the furlough call...oh, that's right! You're not a Comair pilot either, are you?

Very well put CRJ...Good seeing on here again.
Guys/gals here is a thought, ignore the child and do not respond. When you do, you're providing satisfaction on her part. I believe we know better and can agree the news is good albeit anything can happen. That being said, no need to add fuel to the re_ _ rd. Good luck and congrats to all coming back. :)

Can't listen to the conference call because Hockey is on....Please update with any positive information!

I don't think you understood my post. Look at the big picture. Right now it takes just little adjustments between the two companies to cover the summer flying. Comair brings back a few pilots so does Atlantic Sourheast. Which at last count brings back around 40 or so. However, for Skywest and Atlantic Southeast to take over All of Mesa and Comair flying it would take alot more adjusting to cover this volume of flying. As for paying for moving and cost of training, that really is just pocket change. Just don't trust Comair management.

What all do we have to do on an MV? V1cut, single missed, landing?

no flap landing

This is the only guy I have ever used this feature for, and I love it.

Just stop quoting him so I can continue ignoring him.

I'm in yyz and just saw Don Cherry rocking a plaid rainbow suit for Coaches Corner...That guy is a freaking National Treasure!

Go Filthadelphia! ( I wish both teams could lose)

Is the person who asked the Mesaba and Comair merger question on the call on APC, think he lives in Lake City FL. If you're on here, I think we interviewed together recently, send me a PM. I'm a Brit BTW!

Some people asking questions during the conference call shouldn't be allowed near an airplane.:rolleyes:

HAHAHAHA, yeah how can you not remember if you told HR that you moved?

i think the call went very well and answered a lot of questions... hopefully things work out with the bypass option even though they think it won't go through... since they're almost guaranteed to start a second round of recalls, maybe they'll have enough time to negotiate it...



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Comair doesn't have management. They have supervisors who answer the phone from Atlanta.

That's why they can change the name on the big office on the fifth floor every year and Comair keeps plodding along.

Now, what fun is it if you already know what to expect? Really, a couple sims before the MV are spent doing the MV stuff, so you'll see it before hand.

I missed it, was with the family tonight. I'll look forward to listening to it on the ALPA site.

Any intel on additional recalls (if/when, how many?)??

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nothing official yet... they only have one official reply back so far in the mail because of the holiday weekend (was a voluntary furlough bypassing)

they seem to think that another round seems likely, and they cited that when they were short 5 pilots they ended up sending another 14 letters...

completely unofficially... but since they are trying to get 72 minimum recalls out of 100 letters, i guarantee a second wave of recalls... so if you're close to the cutoff line expect a phonecall in the next couple weeks... all you need is for more than 13 of the 85ish nonvoluntary furloughs to resign for them to start round 2... given the 30ish percent rejection rate they said on the phone (i think the number they used was 31.8) they will probably end up at least 12-13 pilots short, which would probably provoke a second round of recalls in the 20-25 range minimum... so if you're in the top 125 on the list, you're comming back for one of those class dates...

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Sorry. Drunk wife on APC. In the words of CSNY, carry on

Eh... I just thought you were Swedish. :D

Answered a lot of questions? Please let me know what new information you got that you didn't already know.

I wouldn't waste the time. I mean I know these guys try hard and all but... there isn't anything you already don't know.

i said they answered a lot of questions... i didn't say the questions were helpful or even intelligent (some of them were moronic)... questions were asked, then they were answered..

Ok... I'm as big of a MP fan as anyone, but gotta say I was a bit irritated that he suggested to one guy to take the full 10 days to mail back his recall letter (which he still hasn't received) to see if the union gets a bypass option. I'm sorry. I'm all for a bypass option, but I think it's pretty clear that it's NOT going to happen. Sooo... for people like myself who are waiting on a possible second wave of recalls this just delays something even longer.

Just my thoughts

I'm waiting all ten days, and I wish that I had more time... sorry that its an inconvenience to you... but he has all ten days contractually and he should take all ten if needed, I don't think its going to effect you anyhow, How many do you need to turn it down? I doubt that people waiting ten days will have any effect on if and when there is a second wave. I see all you guys way down the list whining about a bypass and just wanting people to quit, by not having a bypass many that would otherwise bypass are not, everyone should hope for it, it will only get people back faster, I know of a many more that would bypass who are now coming back because we lack a bypass option which they would take and now must burn bridges that they would otherwise not at good contract jobs overseas and in the US, jobs in which some of you could take advantage of in the future if you don't get recalled. I doubt these jobs would be available if a bunch of Comair furloughs just bounce on their commitments because they don't have a bypass option. It will only make finding a flying job for some of you that much harder especially when a bunch of our guys ditch their current commitments, who would want to take another chance on a furloughed comair guy? Bypassing is a huge risk as well because you may never be called again, and many of you would be back in the saddle much faster if this works out. It sounds doubtful yes but bypass option is good for everyone including the company and I don't see how people don't see that, I have many friends who were not called in the first wave as well, I hope that everyone gets to come back as soon as possible.

Lets say we get 50 pilots coming back on the 13, you show up then they send you home for a week or 2, do you get paid for that time off?

I posted this here also

yes, MP addressed that..full guarantee starting from day one.

Very good points. I believe if one is going to move on, they'll do so right away. Waiting those 10 days -to see how things pan out-, will not be an issue for those not coming back. it'll be be improtant to those -like you said- with prior commitments that still want to come back. It is a hard decision to make.

I agree, if they are out, no sense in them waiting and I don't think they will. But for the few, a bypass could bring back people that need work now without having to burn any bridges for guys still looking for work that are not recalled.

But a bypass for invols is not going to happen -at least not now-. I feel bad for the guys that have to make a decision, and sad for the guys waiting for those to make a decision. Catch 22......

Only got to hear about half of the call (it was pretty short). If they get the bypass option in the middle of this recall process, what happens to those who have already resigned? Do they get their # back, classified as a voluntary?

Slightly different note, ALPA's been studying the short-staffing prior to the block hour increase...did they ever come up with a proposed number needed to properly staff?

They are trying to get the bypass to go back to November when the first guys quit during the recall.

They didn't say any hard numbers but think it will still be understaffed.

Its Retro-active, but even if it doesn't happen now, they should continue to negotiate a bypass for the next series of recalls should they happen.

My personal opinion I think a bypass for the involuntary furloughs will not happen. If it hasn't happen yet it will not happen now. But I've been wrong before.

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SmartCockpit - CRJ 100-200 SERIES

Like I said before. I am for a bypass option. However it clearly isn't going to happen. Not right now. And YES people waiting on a pipe dream bypass amendment do affect me. I have another class date for a new job on June 8th and need to know what the outlook looks like for my recall as soon as I can. If people wait 10 days from today I'm screwed. It's just my opinion. I don't expect anyone to do anything but whats best for their situation.

Anyone know what the Vegas odds are for Trailblazers' views? Skywest and Atlantic Southeast to take over Mesa and Comair flying. What's the spread trailblazer and has someone else asked you earlier - where are you getting this info?