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afterburn81 09-08-2007 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by flybywire44 (Post 227568)
Since you have so much time on your hands walk into scheduling and deliver food yourself.

You know as much as I don't condone bribery I would at least like to head up there and talk to them. And I would do it in a heartbeat, that is if I knew where to go. I suppose they are up in the GO? Any specific loc?

ATRsteve 09-08-2007 12:55 PM

If you're worried about your 120 hours, wait til you have about 2 months left, then call your training scheduler. Tell them you're worried about meeting your 120 hours, they will put you on a few 4 days to get you your time.

freezingflyboy 09-08-2007 01:19 PM

Geeez, I've never heard so many guys b!tch about NOT having to work! Oh no, so much free time on my hands, what am I ever going to do?:D

cbire880 09-08-2007 01:34 PM

I really don't know anything about ASA's workrules and I know how they can dramatically change the compensation picture (e.g. XJT vs RAH). I would glady take a small or no raise in exchange for better work rules (trip/duty rights and min day).

What will drive your management to the bargaining table though? They know that there is still a solid supply of 250 hour wonders and we can't strike. How can we bargain in the environment? What about negotiating minimum experience in the next contract?

samdog 09-08-2007 06:44 PM

sitting reserve and not getting called? I just got off a 4 day at ASA with three 5-leg days in a row and I can barely type this right now I am so exhausted. Sounds like I'll be bidding reserve next month, I could use some time off. These 4 days blow as@!

SD3Dog 09-14-2007 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 227487)
This has always been one of the big problems at ASA. There is no transparency in scheduling, especially with those on reserve. Because of this, the situation is ripe for bribery and kick backs. When I was there I would go over a month without being called. No kidding. I finished IOE on the ATR in October 2000. My first flight as a PIC was in December- over a month. I almost did not meet my 120 day minimums. Meanwhile, pilots junior to me would max out each month. I overheard one of these pilots talking in the crew lounge about the different things that schedulers liked in exchange for flying; she would buy this one pizza, that one candy, another one actually liked a little cash. I wanted to grab her and beat the **** out of her.
Another time I was awarded a relief line with... 0 hours of flying. The entire month on reserve, "working" T-Day. A pilot junior to me got a relief line with 80 hours, T-Day off. When I called to complain, good old Willy told me he met the letter of the contract- we were both awarded relief lines. Nothing said my relief line had to have more flying.
This MUST be fixed in the contract.


I will second that! I was considering applying due to the quick commute but that gives me second thoughts. :confused: I was thinking that if I can get in now then when the contract is signed I would be in good shape. If I did get hired would I likely find another ASA guy that would want to split an appartment for 6 months or so. I hate the idea of crew pads. Brotha needs some space. ;)


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