thats awesome, I just hope I have a job in a year:rolleyes:

It would suck but you knew going in that CAL had cut flying. You know me, I was very anti-go-to-XJT two years ago, it was for this reason (job security). Anyone that has gone to XJT after 12/2005 (when CAL announced the cut) took a bigger gamble that they would be gainfully employed there.

Personally I hope XJT keeps adding bigger aircraft, we need you guys to hold up those pay rates and work rules. ASA, AWAC, and Horizon can't do it alone!

I hear ya, I knew what I was in for, I am hoping for the best but seems like not much good news lately. Funny one day day you worry about upgrading within three years, the next week, the topic of conversation is if we furloughed if I would have a job. Its the airline industry what can I say.............

No kidding, look at Mesaba, 7 year upgrades then practically overnight street captains. Insane.

Does XJT have larger aircraft pay in their current contract? If not then you'll see the same thing that's happened at RAH which we all know how people complain about that.

no, we dont have a payscale for larger equiptment, but if we got larger A/C you can bet your a$$ we would be getting more money than you guys, being as though our 50 seat pay is right there with your 70 seat pay................


I dont see larger a/c in our future............

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you guys. Why? because, it's the same old management tactic to scare pilots into worrying frenzy in order keep us down where they want us. You can bet your dollar that XJT management is cooking up some deals with other airlines as we discuss this. Prospect for regional flying has never been this good. Why you may ask? All majors are shifting more of their domestic flying to regionals so they can concentrate on international flying. International flying is where the real moneys at.

Why should management pay you guys more when they wouldn't have to?

Ask that exact question to every AA, DAL, CAL, NWA, UAL, SWA, UPS, FDX pilot and see how many friends you make at the end of the day. You and pilots like you are the reason they don't have to. Sellout.....

Ya international is where it is all at, just look at TWA, Eastern, and Pan Am. All of them had great international routes and lost focus on domestic feed.

Perhaps you should think before you speak. It was a rhetorical question. They are speaking of XJT getting bigger planes and expecting higher pay. However SKW, RAH, Comair haven't stepped up the bar with their pay. Why should they expect anything more out of XJT when it's not on paper. Management doesn't give anything for free.

ya international is where it is? Where is this coming from? Did you bother reading everything prior to posting?

saab.. the people on the xjt board told you to quit being a whiney pain in the butt about this "i hope i have a job" stuff. Get over it!!! They dont want to hear it there and we dont want to hear it here. You just dont let up on it and if you are going to do nothing but whine and complain about how the industry isnt fair you seriously need to grow a pair. The industry isnt going to change! No job is secure at the 121 level and it seems that everyone but you gets it. Grow up! If you dont like your career outlook then go somewhere else... your fear mongering has got to stop.

You are giving every single one of your fellow pilots at xjt a bad name by your constant ramblings on here. I really wish you would post anonymously and not say anything about xjt. You are everything our pilot group strives not to be. You are part of the problem and not the solution. Keep posting on here so new hire applicants can be turned off to our company because they think you are a good example of our pilot group. Go start another thread "Its definite Continental is taking another 25%" on the xjt board... i want to watch your peers put you in your place AGAIN.

To everyone else I am sorry for my peer. I hope everyone knows that 99% of xjt pilots are professionals. Please don't let the posts of one change your view of the many.

I really don't think you can say that about Saab dude...much of his "the world is ending for XJet" is just purely fun. And we know it...This was a rather harsh post I think, especially for someone who is well-respected and established on these boards!

well established??? he picks fights with other pilot groups, makes ignorant posts about other pilots groups, and has been told to quit fear mongering by his own pilot groups message board multiple times. At some point he needs to realize he isnt just hurting his own reputation in the industry but is actually doing harm to our pilot group.

sorry to blow up like this but when i meet a chq pilot in public I don't want him thinking i share this guys views just because he is the most vocal.

I'm no where near being a F.O. for a Regional, but I had my sights on this company.

Isn't EJT still one of the better Regionals to work for? Except for the tanking stock price, what else is bad at the company as compared to other Regionals?

I guess when they begin to operate like other low QOL Regionals, with only the bottom line on their minds, the stock prices will begin to reverse?

xjt is a very professional pilot group with a reasonable contract and a great relationship with their management. it is unfortunate that their branded flying is not doing well so far, and im not sure how they plan to turn that around, but everyone knew when they started that up that that there was a lot of risk involved. XJT produces an excellent product and did great for CAL, but CAL cut a lot of their flying for being more expensive than some other regionals. But its also been good for XJT because theyve been able to do some flying for some other airlines. Something is obviously going to have to happen soon in the future to turn the companys financial performance around, but i hope its not at the cost of concessions for the pilots.

Keep in mind that last quarter's loss had everything to do with the start-up costs of the branded side, and was expected by the company. This did unfortunately cause a loss of a lot of investor confidence, but hey, it was a risky move. Branded's load factors are better than predicted at this point, though it might take a couple more quarters to show a profit for that side of the house.

Just trying to stay positive here, people. The stock price sucks, but it wasn't exactly unexpected after the start of branded.

Get a grip ....................... I think one or two people told me not to worry on our boards, and if you really think I give Expressjet a bad name, you need to re-read my posts, and speaking of growing a pair Ill be at the Spring Hill suits tomorrow for the Union meeting, Ill PM you my info and you can "Grow a pair" and tell me how you feel about me............

How exactly are you going to make a profit flying 50-seaters with oil $85/barrel, 50% load factor and ultra-low fares.

Not to mention on some routes XJT is almost competing with SWA... after all LAX and ONT serve a lot of the same customer base.

I dont see how anyone is going to make much of a profit at $85/Barrel..............

Our fares arent "ultra-low" though..........

saab i actually have more respect for xjt pilots and i think you represent them well. i dont think you say anything to embarrass or lower your group, you just like to have fun and bust peoples balls on the board. we all do it, and if it wasnt for that, i would have stopped reading this board a long time ago.

your fares are "semi-low." Ill use it in a sentence. Southwest quoted me a really low fare, but XJT only gave me a "semi."

haha thats classic, that should be our motto, haha

Actually, Branded is doing better than expected. LF has been respectable, and we're building a lot of customer loyalty. During my crew's 90 minute sit in ABQ last week, I ran into a pax who was on one of my flights a few months back. We share a common interest in RC heli flying, and struck up a conversation while on a MX delay in OMA back in June. Kinda nice to returning customers. :D

nice, I had a lady tell me today that she is never flying "continental" again, how dare we make her put her "carry-on" with her credit cards in the back of the airplane............. I didnt have the heart to tell her she wasnt flying on Continental, haah thats good news though I hear the pax on branded are a happier bunch, probably just a west coast thing

pm sent to saab

TRUE. But it surely is easier when you have a brand recognition like SWA and 140 seats per flight.

Having said that I think XJT is doing a GREAT job in their branded flying so far, considering their capabilities. However I see it difficult for them to get profitable with oil prices this high.

Not so sure about that. I'll have to check into that more, but the company has been very clear in explaining that we're not trying to compete with SWA at all; in fact, we're going out of our way to make sure that the branded destinations "aren't too big or too small" (management's words). Too small and we don't make any money, too big and SWA parks a 737 on top of us and sends us packing.

My main concern however is that I don't really see the XJT brand out there in advertising. I understand that a new advertising firm is stepping in to help spread the word, so hopefully that'll kick things into high gear. I just have a feeling that a lot of people might not even know about branded and we're losing business because of it.

Wow, stock droped to 2.70

I can't believe nobody has quoted this out of context yet!
:D

Congratulations. Your blue ribbon is in the mail.

somebody needs to call cramer and see what he would do about this stock. and then post what he says here.

Bottomed out at 2.34 today.....how low will it go?? Buy out possible?....the future doesn't seem as bright as it used to....

CAL has first dibbs on any buyout. If anyone decided to try, they would veto that in a heartbeat most likely. Not to mention, any company buying up all the stock is going to drive the price higher...