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wtn0014 09-24-2007 04:52 PM

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Do future employers view someone resigning from training because of bad performance the same as failing out? I resigned(though not technically employed yet) the other day because I was not flying well in the simulator.

JoeyMeatballs 09-24-2007 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by wtn0014 (Post 236310)
Do future employers view someone resigning from training because of bad performance the same as failing out? I resigned(though not technically employed yet) the other day because I was not flying well in the simulator.

Good question, I guess it all depends how the airline (which one if you dont mind) categorized you when you left............. But they are going to ask you why you left, and you are going to have to be honest, so essentially its the same thing. If hey didnt ask you to leave, I would not have left, I would of tried until they kicked me out, but you know yourself better than anyone so in reality maybe it was a very mature decision................. Its not going to ruin your career, you just might have to explain a little more than you would like...........But what was the issue, and how much time do you have whats your background?

tpersuit 09-24-2007 05:34 PM

Put it this way. Training isn't cheap so they may not like that you "resigned". Plus other airlines will be very hesitant to invest $20K into you because you left another during training. I think your safe bet would to not mention that you left. Why would you quit because you weren't flying the sim good? Like Saab said "Only leave when they kick you out"

I hate being negative but once you get to the sims they've invested a lot of money at this point so it's going to hurt you in the future.

wtn0014 09-24-2007 05:35 PM

It was pinnacle airlines. I was struggling with stalls, and I really did not have any confidence that I was going to pick it up as quickly as they needed me too, so I thought washing out was imminent. I always thought it was better to resign than be fired. I had struggled with the stalls during the first two sims, but the third sim was pretty bad which earned me a chewing out from the instructor. I was a flight instructor and I had some time in the right seat of king airs. My times are TT 920 and 150ME

tpersuit 09-24-2007 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by wtn0014 (Post 236359)
I had struggled with the stalls during the first two sims, but the third sim was pretty bad which earned me a chewing out from the instructor.

Dude, you sound like a nice guy, and a honest one, but I was chewed out pretty bad in my first 4 sims. This was the instructor's technique and it made my partner and me school the PC. When the instructor is yelling at you he is just frustrated with himself that you aren't succeeding, not that you suck. People who don't struggle early will fail terribly at the end. Next time stick it out, you'll be a better pilot for it.

cessna157 09-24-2007 05:39 PM

I wouldn't let that get you down too much. Stalls in the CRJ are nasty, at best.

At my airline, you don't get immediately washed out and terminated. They will tell you that the end is very near, giving you the opportunity to resign and keep your dignity.
But like said before, don't try to cover up for it. If asked, say exactly what you just said. You didn't feel comfortable with continuing on at the pace they requested. But if given another opportunity, you could take what you've already learned and apply it more.......

MikeB525 09-24-2007 05:42 PM

Tell me about CRJ stalls. This sounds interesting.

RJ85FO 09-24-2007 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by wtn0014 (Post 236359)
I had struggled with the stalls during the first two sims, but the third sim was pretty bad which earned me a chewing out from the instructor.

I am very sorry to hear about your experience. Mesaba might offer a better training environment if you are willing to try again. Same choice of bases.

www.mesaba.com

JoeyMeatballs 09-24-2007 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by wtn0014 (Post 236359)
It was pinnacle airlines. I was struggling with stalls, and I really did not have any confidence that I was going to pick it up as quickly as they needed me too, so I thought washing out was imminent. I always thought it was better to resign than be fired. I had struggled with the stalls during the first two sims, but the third sim was pretty bad which earned me a chewing out from the instructor. I was a flight instructor and I had some time in the right seat of king airs. My times are TT 920 and 150ME

My sim partner had problems at first with the stalls in the ERJ, kept on getting the shaker but he sucked it up, had a really great attitude and did them great from there on in. Not to sound like a jerk but when you blow an engine after the PM calls V1 are you going to "resign" hell no! you are going to KICK THAT RUDDER LIKE MESA MANAGEMENT KICKS THERE PILOTS.............and if you go down in flames (Literally) well hell....... at least you gave it a shot...........

cessna157 09-24-2007 05:45 PM

Ha, well, let's just say that they're so violent that half the time the simulator motion base would get overloaded and we'd come crashing down to the floor!


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