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Originally Posted by VTcharter (Post 256938)

I believe that it can and should be logged as total time. I have found another reason to support my opinion and that is 61.57...the fact that you may log landings (night and day) for currency using a sim. If I can log takeoffs, landings and instrument time, then I am logging total as well. Anything that is loggable in the logbook, is loggable as total time. It is all aeronautical experience. Then you break it down into its subcategories; ie sim, pic, night, sic, x-c, etc.

Well this makes a good point, if you can use a Level D to become current in a real airplane, why can't that sim time be used as total time? Why is the regs so fuzzy with their interpretations?

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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO (Post 928537)

Well this makes a good point, if you can use a Level D to become current in a real airplane, why can't that sim time be used as total time? Why is the regs so fuzzy with their interpretations?

There shouldn't be any fuzziness with the regulation. The FAA considers a Level D simulator an aircraft. Which is why you can be typed in an aircraft from a Level D simulator and never stepped foot in the actual aircraft.

The question should be, do airlines consider level D simulator time towards their minimum flight time requirement when applying for a job?

I can tell you that at least one particular major airline does not. This one particular airline would even go out of their way to informing their applicants to not only not count their simulator time, but not include their PIC time before they received their private pilot certificate.
Some applicants would still come into the interview including that time in their application and when asked why they included that time, the applicants response would be "well, the FAA says I can include it." The interview would end after the interviewer reminded them they were not interviewing with the FAA that day.

If you want to keep record of your Level D time I would probably go as far as keeping it recorded in a seperate logbook. That way you're not fishing through your logbook for simulator time before applying to an airline.

RuttR, so I can log that level d sim time for obtaining my ATP with the FAA, but the airlines will view it invalid? Am I missing something here? haha

I am at a 121 carrier and have been logging each flight on individual lines with aircraft N numbers. The thing I haven't logged however is flight numbers or crew member names. Has anyone ever seen this be a problem? Should I go back and look all of that info up?

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Originally Posted by knucklehead13 (Post 1161115)

Yeah definitely. Make sure you also log the aircraft serial number and any MEL's it may have had. I also keep a copy of each release but I'm running out of room in my apartment.

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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO (Post 928708)

RuttR, so I can log that level d sim time for obtaining my ATP with the FAA, but the airlines will view it invalid? Am I missing something here? haha

This is becoming a juvenile discussion. As if one has such low time that they have to include their simulator time.

To respond, I believe you're taking me out of context. If a major airline is hiring and requires 1000 hours PIC jet time and you show up with 1000 hours of PIC jet time all from a level D simulator then yes.

Logging sim time? Really? Okaaaay...

So the company doesn't keep track of your flight time? Wouldn't you have to bring a company printout to any other interview? I would imagine there is a .0001 percent chance the times in your logbook would be the same as your company printout.

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Logging sim time? Really? Okaaaay...

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