Did you just figure most all this out yourself? Bravo!

First, get over the pay! We are ALL fighting to get paid what we think we're worth. If you think we're not than you're a bigger moron then your posting implies.

Second, SKW FA's make more than most Nationals and some Major airlines FA’s do. Yes they are under paid but when you compare them to mainline they are pretty closer than you think.

Third, the reason why all businesses exist is because someone saw a need and that person/business had the ability, that's what ALL airlines are capitalizing on right now. Yours included!

Fourth, No ******! Sorry, just had to say it because your ignorance is unbelievable.

I don’t care what a/c I fly! I just want to get paid what my skills demand. Most of us are of this mind set, the other’s are still in rehab for SJS.

 

Look around, we’re all fighting for improvements. Some more so than others but we all agree we don’t get paid enough. Bottom line we deserve more money and a better QOL.

It seems that a lot of posters on her assume that just because you work for an airline you must agree with the way it and its labor groups are run. Do I like the fact the we get paid a 5% BHO on top of your 50 seat rates, NO I want more. Rome wasn’t built by one person and it wasn’t built in one day. Yes one person started but 100’s of millions continued the effort, even today they work and fight.

Change happens, always!

BTW, I voted Yes for ALPA! I voted Yes for my future! I voted Yes for my family! & I voted Yes to fight! Not because SKW’s a bad employer, their NOT, but because we deserve more!

 

my ignorance? from your posts you seem to be the guy that walks into a bar and goes "i fly 90 seats"

yeah your really fighting for better wages ::sarcasm::. How about you guys fight for the better wages BEFORE you start flying the airplanes. YOUR ignorance and YOUR pilot groups ignorance or SJS screwed up your pay. You are regional pilots and now your acting surprised that your getting paid as such? just because you had big dreams of flying the "big iron" and didnt care about pay at first doesn't mean you can turn around now and say "well everyone thinks we are a joke and how about better pay." That is what you are a joke... the only people who are laughing is management. they win we lose but hey have fun flying your 90 seats around. the chicks at the bar dig it and maybe you can go back to your fancy aero college and give a pep talk about how flying "big" jets is SOOOO COOL!

SJS at its finest here folks. Too bad the pilots in those jets are too busy being mesmerized by all the seats behind them instead of looking at the future.

PS... i did figure it out on my own its common sense champ and maybe you should rethink your "90 seaters are the future" routine. I was condescending in my posts because you and otter or whatever set the tone for the posts early on.

 

So we should like you because your taking away higher paying jobs at the major level? because thats where the NEED is coming from isnt it. Major airlines have the routes, they win on concessionary contracts from their work groups, and then they bid it out and there you are. you are willing to work for almost half as much on a nearly comparable aircraft, worse work rules, and with little or no regard for the profession because its your their pilots first 121 gig.

look this isn't the blame game. its not your own personal fault and was unstoppabe by just you. you needed a job and took one but dont lie to yourself and tell yourself this is a good thing. Very little good can come out of this and it will take years to get this flying back to the major level.

"Look around, we’re all fighting for improvements. Some more so than others but we all agree we don’t get paid enough. Bottom line we deserve more money and a better QOL."

The truth is you dont deserve better pay or QOL. Those aircraft should be being flown by mainline pilots who DESERVE the pay and QOL. Who had the pay and QOL until somebody came in an underbid them.

 

I think everybody should take a deep breath and calm down.

RJ's are flown by regional airlines because main line pilots allowed their scope clauses to be gutted. If the mainline pilots would have drawn the line at props years ago, the regional industry as we know it today would have never developed. Once the camel's nose was under the tent it was too late to stop the explosive growth. It is pretty hypocritical for mainline pilots to hold regional pilots in contempt when they were the ones who said it was OK in the first place.

The important issue is getting the pay and QOL at both places improved and where it should be. Follow pilots are not the enemy, you've got to get big bonuses to fall into that category.

 

Blah! Blah! Blah!

I've been in and around this industry far longer than you and frankly pilots like yourself are exactly what's driving our profession down. You’re just another pilot who starts spouting his/her mouth off before ever doing any research. That fact that you’ve made these comments with out truly reading any of my postings is amusing. It shows that you’re a one sided individual, which is the worst kind to be.

SKW is non-union, I’m sure you didn’t know that? So how exactly is a single pilot going to stop an airline form flying CR9’s? Explain that to me so I can have a good chuckle. Without unity a labor group has not balls. That’s SKW for you, no unity, but we’re working on it. Do you have any business common sense; do you have any business experience, how about business knowledge? Obviously not, you may say you do but your postings tell a different story.

You know we can sit here and trough jabs at each other, but fighting with you is like fighting with Pee Wee Herman. You’re a waist of my time.

As for the SJS comment. LOL! That’s a good one. Go back and read my postings again.
When I was hired at SKW I was offered the RJ but I’d have to wait almost 2 months, so I asked about the EMB-120. They said there was a ground school starting in 2 weeks but with my experience the RJ could be mine. I laughed and told them I don’t care what I fly, I want the seniority. So I took the EMB and by the time the RJ class started I had almost 200 pilots below me.

Just in case your reading compression skills are MIA again as you read this posting, I’ll sum it up for you. I don’t care about what I fly; I only care about my family, my future and myself. I’ll fight beside my fellow pilots for every penny we deserve but here at SKW no one can stand up because we have no protection from Mgmnt retribution. But you’re ignorant and don’t understand what I’m talking about. So go on and post a rebuttal, I need to laugh a bit more.

 

Get off the a/c will “YA.” I don't care if it's a B1900, we deserve more. I have to say that you're a real work of art. A real cool guy on that pedestal. By any chance are kin to SkyHigh?

BTW, I deserve a hell of a lot more than I'm getting and any pilot at any level deserves just as much as any mainline pilot who deserve more. A pilot is a pilot, regardless of whether he's flying a 747 or a B1900. Don't forget the only thing that changed about the 747 pilot was time; they both have the same skills. Yes a 747 pilot position deserves more money but both pilots deserve to get paid very well and have good to great QOL.

You’re a hypocrite but please keep posting, I'm enjoying your ramblings.

 

I completely agree but some just don't understand. Their just to caught up pointing fingers and blaming each other instead of learning and going forward.

 

O.K., thanks for the insight. Now as far as XJET losing money, its due to start up costs associated with shifting airplanes out of the COEX fleet and into the Delta and Branded fleet. Our revenue has increased, but we had a lot of airplanes that had serious down time. Now, as I said in a previous post, for me this is not a EMB-145 is better or worse than a CRJ700/900 thing, its simply that I don't think there is a demand in the Mexico market that would require the CRJ7/9. Would you agree?

 

Based upon what you said and I've seen, I would agree. But more seats for close to the same cost allows for you to make more money during the peak seasons.

Personally I see XJT's use of the ERJ as common sense. If XJT wanted to use the E170's it would cost them for more money in start up cost than it currently is. Buying new a/c, training new pilots, new sim instructors, new ground instructors, new curriculum, Mx professional, parts, certification, ops spec and so on. The cost would have been much higher to bring a different a/c on line. Now they can test the markets and if there is growth they can make the decisions about larger a/c down the road.

Regardless I wish you guys the best of luck.