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SaltyDog 11-05-2007 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Fly IFR (Post 258469)
I can't believe someone would actually do 3 low passes. You are just asking to get nailed. If you are going to be completely stupid and do something like that don't do it 3 times.

That's why he wouldn't make it in the Navy, he'd get shot down coming back on the second pass. Bet he was off target too <g> Heck, my USAF friends wouldn't pick him up either <bg>

Stetson20 11-05-2007 07:08 PM

It's kinda sad, IMO. The kid will probably never fly for an airline, most likely won't be able to fly for the military, and has cost himself a pretty rewarding career- all because of an immature stunt at age 17.

He'll have the rest of his life to regret that stupid decision.

Stetson20

flybywire44 11-05-2007 07:17 PM

My heart breaks for his stupidity. What a bad decision, lets hope he's some rich brat who has little passion for aviation.

AKfreighter 11-05-2007 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 258204)
SAAB... I thought the same thing. It's what I like to call False Outrage in this country... everyone pretending to be offended or upset or mentally damaged by something just to get their 15 minutes in the news. Terrorist attack at a high school football game? Please.

Agreed. Nice name for it too. Come to think of it, instead of a first officer I'll be false outrage from now on.

ehaeckercfi 11-05-2007 07:26 PM

Maybe he never wanted to be an airline pilot:eek:
I mean, some people actually fly for fun, not a career.

AKfreighter 11-05-2007 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Stetson20 (Post 258500)
It's kinda sad, IMO. The kid will probably never fly for an airline, most likely won't be able to fly for the military, and has cost himself a pretty rewarding career- all because of an immature stunt at age 17.

He'll have the rest of his life to regret that stupid decision.

Stetson20

If I was interviewing this kid (asssuming he could make it to an interview in the future) I think I'd be willing to let this one trangression pass if there were know further infractions. We've all done stupid stuff in airplanes, albeit hopefully not of this caliber.

Radial Song 11-05-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Stetson20 (Post 258500)
It's kinda sad, IMO. The kid will probably never fly for an airline, most likely won't be able to fly for the military, and has cost himself a pretty rewarding career- all because of an immature stunt at age 17.

He'll have the rest of his life to regret that stupid decision.

Stetson20

As much as I'd like to agree with you, chances are that this little punk will have his private revoked. Then in year or two he'll retake the knowledge test, get his 3 hours of instruction, take his practical and get his private again. After 5 or 10 years, he would have learned his lesson and will likely be able to pursue a flying career and could end up at a regional or even a major. Who knows what the aviation landscape will be like by that time? After all, even majors have hired pilots with DUI's beyond 10 years prior....maybe even closer than that. If that doesn't happen, he could have a career with some scumbag freight outfit.

Navajo31 11-05-2007 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 258207)
Sounds like he's ready for the Navy....


Hey, now that we beat NOTRE DAME, we can be a lot choosier!

Fly IFR 11-06-2007 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by AKfreighter (Post 258508)
If I was interviewing this kid (asssuming he could make it to an interview in the future) I think I'd be willing to let this one trangression pass if there were know further infractions. We've all done stupid stuff in airplanes, albeit hopefully not of this caliber.

I might have to agree with you. If this was the only thing he had ever done, maybe I would be willing to let it pass in the interview. Of course as long as he proved he was extremely knowledgeable. It is true that a majority of pilots have done one or two things stupid in airplanes, some more extreme and riskier than others. As long as this person absolutely learned from this experience and has since matured and could prove it. It will be tough for him in the future, but I think possible to make it a few years down the road if he is willing to wait that long.

FlyerJosh 11-06-2007 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by Radial Song (Post 258522)
As much as I'd like to agree with you, chances are that this little punk will have his private revoked. Then in year or two he'll retake the knowledge test, get his 3 hours of instruction, take his practical and get his private again. After 5 or 10 years, he would have learned his lesson and will likely be able to pursue a flying career and could end up at a regional or even a major. Who knows what the aviation landscape will be like by that time? After all, even majors have hired pilots with DUI's beyond 10 years prior....maybe even closer than that. If that doesn't happen, he could have a career with some scumbag freight outfit.


The difference is that, for as terrible as they are, DUI's are pretty common place, and most people that end up with them didn't blatantly set out with the intent of driving drunk.

Even with a shortage of pilots out there, I'd be surprised if this kid is able to land an airline job down the road. He's probably going to end up with one or more FELONY charges against him, not to mention a revocation, and faa actions. Not exactly what I would call "easy to explain away" in an interview- regardless of how much somebody "matures" over the years.

Look at it from an employer's standpoint- would you want to put yourself at risk (liability)? What happens if something were to ever go wrong after he's hired- the number of questions/lawsuits would be even more staggering than in today's tort happy environment.


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