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CL65driver 11-06-2007 10:58 AM

Well, to all their own. The SkyWest pilots have spoken. What's the count now?... two airlines this year alone who have turned down ALPA? Very interesting....

otter 11-06-2007 11:08 AM

I voted yes, however, I knew there was no way it would happen. But only 35%!!!! Thats also much lower than I was guessing. I hope we can get some cool new block over ride.

SharkAir 11-06-2007 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 258733)
You're such a peice of crap. You're easily making this a terrible profession. Enjoy your $19/hour to fly a jet.

I've always thought that if you're going to insult somebody in writing, you should at least try to spell correctly to bolster your own position. And really, do you think he's advocating getting paid $19 per hour? As someone who's doing it now, I can say there is absolutely no joy in getting paid that kind of money, and I'd be hard pressed to find anybody who disagrees. That said, that's just how it is. Pretty much every airline I can think of pays significantly less the first year, unionized or not. They might just do it because they can, they might do it to offset training costs, they might do because we're on probation, whatever. What I try to keep in mind is that it does get better, and railing against everyone for flying around at $19/hr is a tad bit disingenuous. I knew what I was getting into, tried to plan accordingly, and so far it's working out. I would think most people would do the same.

On a side note, the $19 rate, miserable as it is, is still competitive with the rest of industry, particularly when you take our work rules into account. I'm not defending it, but it's not like the evil scab anti-union pilots of SkyWest are selling everyone out and dragging the whole industry down.

I would say, though, that the ball is in SkyWest's court. I'd say the majority of the pilot group has shown their "loyalty" to them, and if they are who they say they are, I'd expect some good things in the near future.

JetJock16 11-06-2007 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 258795)
On a side note, the $19 rate, miserable as it is, is still competitive with the rest of industry, particularly when you take our work rules into account. I'm not defending it, but it's not like the evil scab anti-union pilots of SkyWest are selling everyone out and dragging the whole industry down.

I would say, though, that the ball is in SkyWest's court. I'd say the majority of the pilot group has shown their "loyalty" to them, and if they are who they say they are, I'd expect some good things in the near future.

No $19.25 an hour is not competitive. It's actually well below average, near the bottom, its second year and then on that is more than competitive.

I agree, now that 65+% of the pilot group has voted no and I'm sure 80+% of the yes votes are still Pro-SKW, how is Mgmnt going to reward us. As a start they need to increase first year pay and improve some of our QOL policies and that's just a beginning.

SharkAir 11-06-2007 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 258810)
No $19.25 an hour is not competitive. It's actually well below average, near the bottom, its second year and then on that is more than competitive.

I agree, now that 65+% of the pilot group has voted no and I'm sure 80+% of the yes votes are still Pro-SKW, how is Mgmnt going to reward us. As a start they need to increase first year pay and improve some of our QOL policies and that's just a beginning.

Yeah, per hour maybe not, but at least you credit more than 3 hours a day, among other things.

JetJock16 11-06-2007 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 258830)
Yeah, per hour maybe not, but at least you credit more than 3 hours a day, among other things.

They have min guarantees at other regionals as well. Horizon, XJT, RAH just to name a few; but yet we have the lowest first year pay…………………. Things that make you go Hmmmmm?

Airsupport 11-06-2007 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 258837)
They have min guarantees at other regionals as well. Horizon, XJT, RAH just to name a few; but yet we have the lowest first year pay…………………. Things that make you go Hmmmmm?


he don't worry man. Koolaidman said that he was told by SAPA reps that if the pilots voted down ALPA that everyone would get a raise..

KingAirPIC 11-06-2007 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 258905)
he don't worry man. Koolaidman said that he was told by SAPA reps that if the pilots voted down ALPA that everyone would get a raise..

Sure, I wish there was a smiley that was holding his breath and passing out to choose from. Anyway, maybe if it does happen it will be above current inflation this time. :rolleyes:

PS oh... and for prop drivers too...

JetJock16 11-06-2007 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 258905)
he don't worry man. Koolaidman said that he was told by SAPA reps that if the pilots voted down ALPA that everyone would get a raise..

Ya but we just got a 1.95% raise or so I've been told. :rolleyes:


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