Current Eagle upgrade time?
#11
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Its mid 2000 DOH for prop and jet CA. I expect it to stay stagnant. The company royally funked up the tentative agreement for the letter 3/flowthrough issues, so now its back to arbitration. Basically, AE/AMR mgmt doesnt care about anything that goes on at AE and the ship is sinking quickly. I enjoy the flying here, and the crews, but honestly this is not a place to come if you want to advance your career beyond the regional level. Ever.
Go to Mesaba, Pinnacle, Skywest, Xjet, somewhere with a quicker upgrade(which is anywhere). Do your time and get that PIC turbine and move on. The regionals are hell and they are no place to be for an extended period of time. CAL, DAL, USAir, NWA, SWA, FedEx, UPS, United, Frontier, Spirit, Jetblue are all hiring. Find a way to get there.
Go to Mesaba, Pinnacle, Skywest, Xjet, somewhere with a quicker upgrade(which is anywhere). Do your time and get that PIC turbine and move on. The regionals are hell and they are no place to be for an extended period of time. CAL, DAL, USAir, NWA, SWA, FedEx, UPS, United, Frontier, Spirit, Jetblue are all hiring. Find a way to get there.
Infact almost all the Jazz pilots being hired by AC mainline are Jazz FO's that have only been there 1-3 years
#12
That was included in the Tentative Agreement, which is now done with and back to the Arbitrator, due to them wanting to add 25 new CRJ, and American Pilots not agreeing to it.
So for now no bonsues offered, (and btw, it's 3000 sign on, 3000 after your first year of service....that's what was proposed)
So if you get hired now, fyi it's NOT retroactive!!!!
#14
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agreed on that staffing curve. Some chick the other day told me "I totally want to work for Eagle." I think some disillusioned folks out there still seem to think that Eagle FO slot will somehow get them into the right seat of a 777 one day...when in fact it's not a 777 they'll see, it's more like 7 years in that FO seat.
AA should just adopt the Euro model of fully integrating the regional op with the mainline op, and have one seniority list down from the top AA capt to the newest AE FO. Lots of guys would prob sign up for AE to get an AA seniority number, even if it was 283939393939 down from the top, even if there was nearly zero chance of ever getting mainline before they hit mandatory retirement age...MAPD and GoJet guys would probably ask if they could work at AE for free, or if they could pay. It would be like "SJS-LR heavy."
AA should just adopt the Euro model of fully integrating the regional op with the mainline op, and have one seniority list down from the top AA capt to the newest AE FO. Lots of guys would prob sign up for AE to get an AA seniority number, even if it was 283939393939 down from the top, even if there was nearly zero chance of ever getting mainline before they hit mandatory retirement age...MAPD and GoJet guys would probably ask if they could work at AE for free, or if they could pay. It would be like "SJS-LR heavy."
#15
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Of course managment would only go for the above scheme if it was a choice between grounding planes vs. dangling seniority in front of new hires. It would cost a lot to have FOs AND Capts at 7-10 year pay waiting forever at AE for an AA slot.
#18
Hey, just for ******s & giggles, how about someone putting together some sort of table that has upgrade times, etc., for each airline so that if someone is looking, they can do some "comparative shopping".
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#19
an AE recruiter actually had the balls to tell a friend of mine that upgrades were gonna drop to less than a year soon..hahahaha I have to call BS on that one!
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