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CL-65DRIVER 11-12-2007 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 262180)
How does one become a Chief Pilot at an airline? Do you have to have a Masters degree in business or something? This is a serious question so please only serious responses. I have never been one to sit and stay at one level. If I do become an airline pilot I dont jst want to fly for 20 to 30 years.

Sounds like you should just keep your current job.

ghilis101 11-12-2007 08:27 PM

haha whats wrong with a becoming a pilot to not fly? the goal in life is to get on with a major early, be really senior, bid reserve and never have to fly because youre so far up the list youll never get called. its a beautiful thing!

if you wanna be a cp go for it but its probably more pain than anything else to be in that job

ToiletDuck 11-12-2007 08:45 PM

You have to be political. That's about all. You need seniority to get up there and be known but basically you have to be a sheep in wolf's clothing. Look tough but be ready to roll over when the company needs you to.

alaska65 11-12-2007 09:43 PM

Well, of our last four chief pilots: three all had military pilot backgrounds to begin with (C-141, P-3, C-130 I think). Three were instructors and check airmen in the training department after having served as First Officers and line Captains, the other was an instructor (but not check airman) and an expert in aircraft performance and airport arrival/departure planning. All four had at least ten years experience on the second floor of the training building as fleet managers, director of performance planning, or some similar staff related duties in addition to instructing and evaluating. One of them was a former Navy squadron commander; another a USAF Academy grad and chief of a USAF C-141 Standardization/Eval section; only one was entirely civil aviation background but he was an exceptionally skilled aviator, instructor, evaluator, and great judge of character. None of these men had a master's degree to my knowledge, but they each had at least 20 years of aviation experience both on the line and in instructing, evaluating, and staff positions before they were placed as Chief Pilot.
Ours is a major airline with about 1500 pilots.

Under my Alaska65 name, are the words "new hire". How do I change that? For what its worth, I am a 58 year old Captain, pretty senior at my airline.

flaps 9 11-12-2007 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 262244)
Ok,I dont want personal opinions of what you may think of Chief Pilots. I am loking for serious information. I am 30 something years old. I could care less if its popular or not. I have a family to take care of and I am the kind of person that wants to be successful.


With an attitude like that, you're a perfect fit for management :eek:

flaps 9 11-12-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by alaska65 (Post 262297)
Under my Alaska65 name, are the words "new hire". How do I change that? For what its worth, I am a 58 year old Captain, pretty senior at my airline.

It's nothing against you, it's based on the number of posts you make.

WVFlyer 11-12-2007 10:20 PM

Amen....how do you change your profile specs?.....and at my old airline....GIA...the current Chief Pilot needs 2 years experience at the airline as CPT and kiss the management's ass. Nothing personal against the guy, he's a very well qualified pilot with about 8,000 hours...most of which at GIA and I've flown with him many times.....top notch pilot and a nice guy to boot.

HercDriver130 11-12-2007 11:02 PM

Somebody has to do those jobs.....whether we as line swine like it or not.

rickair7777 11-13-2007 06:48 AM

Like ERJDriver said, at mesa the selection was based on butt kissing and pro-management (ie alter-ego) behavior.

SKW seems to select folks who have some previous business or military management experience. Knowing people always helps, just like any office job.

If you're looking to further your career, become a check-airman instead.

ERJ Driver 11-13-2007 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 262290)
You have to be political. That's about all. You need seniority to get up there and be known but basically you have to be a sheep in wolf's clothing. Look tough but be ready to roll over when the company needs you to.

True dat my toilet-duck buddy!


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