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rickair7777 05-17-2019 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by AvSec (Post 2821910)
In answer to the original question, look up FAR 119.67(b)

That's for for the regulatory CP position. Larger airlines (including regionals) have multiple non-regulatory CP positions (regional, base, base assistant, etc).

TheRaven 05-17-2019 11:53 AM

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Viking6 05-17-2019 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2821913)
That's for for the regulatory CP position. Larger airlines (including regionals) have multiple non-regulatory CP positions (regional, base, base assistant, etc).

This ^^^

Republic has hired a couple of CFIs as ACPs.

AvSec 05-17-2019 02:18 PM

Thanks !
 

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2821913)
That's for for the regulatory CP position. Larger airlines (including regionals) have multiple non-regulatory CP positions (regional, base, base assistant, etc).

Thanks for letting me know, I had no idea !

ICUROOK 05-19-2019 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by ERJ Driver (Post 262236)
At the joint I work for, you have to kiss a lot of butt. A LOT. It is all about who you know and whose butt you have kissed and how well you have kissed it. It really has nothing to do with record or ability- I know of a CP who had a big time violation before becoming a CP. CP's make their buddies the asst CP, who then make their buddies the IOE pilots. Again, there is little to do with ability beyond the basics. In fact, I know of at least one IOE CA who is a total a$$ and has no instructional ability. Go figure.

In all fairness, and judging by the OP's posts, he would be great at that. He seems like the type of person who would kiss anybody's butt and backstab his peers to get to the top, no matter what it takes.

N6724G, don't take what I said above anything other then a serious response as per your thread guidelines.

Cujo665 05-19-2019 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 262180)
How does one become a Chief Pilot at an airline? Do you have to have a Masters degree in business or something? This is a serious question so please only serious responses. I have never been one to sit and stay at one level. If I do become an airline pilot I dont jst want to fly for 20 to 30 years.

You have to be willing to screw a pilot over if your boss tells you to, otherwise you won’t stay or be chief pilot. Now, most of the time they probably deserve some action, however there are times when it’s purely personal or political and not job performance related. I’ve even seen them make up issues that actually didn’t happen. How do you prove a negative?

Regarding the sick example. I’ve seen them discharge a guy for alleged sick abuse (out sick 4 times in one year) and the guy had medical records showing verified treatment for illnesses that prevent flight. They didn’t even look at the records and just discharged him. He was back to work about a month and a half later.... but that’s the kind of people you’re working for.

ICUROOK 05-19-2019 10:37 AM

lol, didn't even realize that this was a bumped thread. It would be interesting to know if N6724G ever achieved his dream of being king a-hole and screwing over all his coworkers.

havick206 05-19-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2821700)
For professional organizations...

They typically but not always want experienced captains, typically also check airmen. Usually people who have been around a while and have credibility. I have seen rare FO CP's, but they are typically going to be retired Colonels, or have some other heavy-hitter management experience at a previous job.

To work your way up from line pilot, get involved in the training dept. as an FO (ground and/or FTD instructor), then get LCA and/or sim instructor as a CA. You'll want your name and face to be known to the bosses (in a good way). Volunteer for anything that comes up on the company side, LOSA, etc. Union volunteer work might help too, but maybe not if you're leading the charge on something contentious (there are plenty of non-contentious things the union does too).


For some bottom feeders...

Decline to join the union. Suck up to managers. Or get elected to the MEC and sell out a major contract. Good things will come your way soon.

Not at Envoy.

MaxQ 05-19-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by ICUROOK (Post 2822899)
lol, didn't even realize that this was a bumped thread. It would be interesting to know if N6724G ever achieved his dream of being king a-hole and screwing over all his coworkers.

Personal opinion.

Once a person decides to take that chief pilot position, or any other non-flying position at an airline for that matter, they slowly stop being a pilot. While they would be deeply offended by such an assertion, and can validly claim exposure to different areas of knowledge than a line pilot, the fact is they are really no longer a full time professional pilot. They are not out in the mud, the blood and the beer. Their daily tussles are of a different, more bureaucratic sort.


I am not saying it's wrong. If that floats somebodies boat, power to them. But it is a decision to leave the arena.

123494 05-19-2019 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2822987)
Not at Envoy.

What do you mean?


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