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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
And you'll be the first one complaining that you can't get a good job ( due to lack of PIC Turbine).
Everyone I know that has a job worth having these days did not think the way you do. It was upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. Don't get me wrong, I agree about getting PIC turbine ASAP. However, about 6 months ago I had a big choice - I used to instruct for Mesa at their airline training program. I could've requested the 1900, with an upgrade of around 3-6 months. When I thought about it, I would rather sit right seat making decent $$ (after first year) with half the month off than live in South Dakota or other similar places to tough it out on the hopes that I might catch a break. I also had a choice of whether to go fly cargo in the west in a shorts. Again, I valued my QOL over the perceived gains of having turbine PIC. If the majors were hiring like crazy (or I thought in the near future hiring would pick up) I obviously would think different... If you have connections to a carrier that requires PIC time, then by all means go someplace to get 'er done and over with and meet the mins. Me, on the other hand, have no connections and as such it wouldn't help me except make my life MISERABLE living in podunk South Dakota (or similar base that the newbies get). |
That is true. I can tell you I have over 1000 PIC turbine in a King Air (almost same as a 1900) and it isn't helping me even get an interview so I say to those people that are only worried about the PIC time, look at all the options not only the pic time. IF ALL other options are equal then yes take the PIC option. Otherwise remeber that some of those guys out there have minimum weight requirements too and king airs and 1900's and such don't meet most of those limits. Just some food for thought.
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Originally Posted by fosters
Funny you mention that. CAL has hired people directly from the right seat here at AWAC recently. I have connections to a 727 freight outfit that doesn't even care if I have PIC time. There are options even if I don't upgrade in 2-2.5 years (which is what upgrade is currently doing).
They came up in the world of 3000TT minimums for regionals, and 6 month upgrades on the Jetstream. The current environment is vastly different. Where are you going to go? Half the legacies are bankrupt, with the other half barely hanging on for dear life. There is fierce competition right now for the heavy freight gigs and the few pax airlines. Don't get me wrong, I agree about getting PIC turbine ASAP. However, about 6 months ago I had a big choice - I used to instruct for Mesa at their airline training program. I could've requested the 1900, with an upgrade of around 3-6 months. When I thought about it, I would rather sit right seat making decent $$ (after first year) with half the month off than live in South Dakota or other similar places to tough it out on the hopes that I might catch a break. I also had a choice of whether to go fly cargo in the west in a shorts. Again, I valued my QOL over the perceived gains of having turbine PIC. If the majors were hiring like crazy (or I thought in the near future hiring would pick up) I obviously would think different... If you have connections to a carrier that requires PIC time, then by all means go someplace to get 'er done and over with and meet the mins. Me, on the other hand, have no connections and as such it wouldn't help me except make my life MISERABLE living in podunk South Dakota (or similar base that the newbies get). |
Do regionals ever make exceptions to their hour requirements?
lets say they want 1000tt 100pic what if you have 1200 tt and 80pic or 800tt with 450 of it pic? |
Aspiring
Yes, they definately do. Especially if you have some connections. Unfotunately I have none of those anywhere I want to work right now. However to answer the question yes put the AP in and se what happens.
If you don't here from them by the time you have time then update the application. XtremeF150 |
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Its WHO you know, not WHAT you know, to get hired. Money aside...it's always good to get lots of experience in the right seat before moving up. And in terms of the tier...very suprised to see that you think Colgan is a low tier. I mean home everynight to some people is awsome, the pay isn't bad, schedules aren't horrid from what I've heard, upgrade time in the 1900 is about 1 year, and the F/A's are cute, lol.
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Thread revival!!
Anyone have any thoughts what the updated list for 2011 would look like?? Top tier, middle tier, and low tier. :D |
Non of them!! ;)
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Right!!!:rolleyes:
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