GoJets Orders More Airplanes
 

Bombardier signs $137.5 mln plane deal with GoJet

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:47pm EST

Market News

(In U.S. dollars unless noted)
TORONTO, Nov 20 (Reuters) - Bombardier Inc's aerospace unit said late on Tuesday that U.S.-based GoJet Airlines has signed a deal to buy four CRJ700 NextGen planes from the Canadian transportation giant.
The deal is worth about $137.5 million, Bombardier said.

GoJet has been operating CRJ700 jetliners since 2005 and has 15 of the aircraft in its fleet.

Bombardier shares finished 1 Canadian cent lower at C$5.35 on the Toronto Stock Exchange on Tuesday. The deal was announced after the market close.

pardon me while i vomit

Good or Bad?

Yeah I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. I actually made the mistake of talking to a GoJetter the other day...he asked how to get in the Ops room in DEN and I wasn't really looking and didn't catch a look at his badge or brass. I've felt dirty since...

I did something similar the other day. The worst thing is that I was actually getting ready to jumpseat on a TSA flight. I almost told the Captain that I would take the next flight as my punishment, but I figured that since I had to fly, the gojet scum wasn't worth delaying a plane full of passengers.

Ick.

Can you provide a link to the story? Otherwise, I don't buy it.

hahaha, funny funny guy

Just for you, here it is straight from the press release from Bombardier.....(my original quote was from Fortune's website), but thought you might "buy it" if I linked the actual press release from the company themselves.
http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?...en/3_0/3_0.jsp

Last time GJ tried to order more planes, SkyWest ended up getting them.

They are still the happy little twits!!!
 

We were heading Indy and a Lindbergh flight came up... Not keeping up with the scabjets issue, I asked who Lindbergh was.. The controller said they used to be Gateway, but didn't know who the company was... After his response, only the sound of chirping crickets... They are still so proud of themselves!!! They then mumbled the next frequency and were gone... Ahhh... Slinking off toward Dulles....Perhaps we should ask controllers just who these intrepid warriors in the air are... I know I was in the dark about who Lindbergh were...Maybe some day they'll answer...

is there good vomit?

That's an absolutely beautiful idea.
You, sir, are a genius.

You could also tell the controllers the significance of GoJets in a manner which they would understand.

GoJets are the equivilent of the replacements hired by Former President Regan after he Fired all the PATCO members.

I'm sure that they would appreciate that annolgy(what Pres Regan did was legal, though reprehencable, much like what was done to the Trans States group with GoJets)

eh, if they get the airplanes, there'll just be that many more pilots flying without souls in the world...

And as stated before, last time they ordered 10 or 12 planes, then all 10 or 12 were canceled and found a new home at skywest. maybe ordering 4 planes is a little more attainable for them, but even still, i'd believe it when they show up.

I've made that same mistake...so I went back in the room, walked up next to them, farted, and left the room. Then I didn't feel so bad...

Immature...yes...are they screwing up our future...yes...so in conclusion, did I do the world a favor by farting in their general direction?...YOU BET'CHA!

I don't know why you are getting defensive. All I was trying to say was that the link didn't work. Next time I will spell it out. The second link just takes me to Bombardier's site.

congrats G7!

Most mainline pilots feel the same about regional pilots......' brining down us all'

are you serious? Keep taking those mainline jobs bro

I have a question for you.. looking at your past 20+ posts.. are you able to comment on any thead in a manner that is not sarcastic, asinine, or degrading? I'd sad that you have all this hate bottled up inside and your only means of therapy is this forum; perhaps you really only hate youself...

I thought we had determined earlier this guy is a GoJet pilot.

Yes, serious as cancer.

Last overnight I had wasn't in Shanghai or Moscow or London so if my existance at a regional is chapping the ____of a mainline guy/gal sitting in his/her hotel room in one of these said cities I really won't be losing too much sleep over it. I second the question......you a proud GJ pilot BRO?

I'm wondering how they plan on staffing the place. There are several companies with dropped mins that are better work environments.

Another thought is how long until people start to forgive the pilots there? Freedom had the initial "A listers" and now, while agreed it is a supper crappy place to work, it seems the new ones aren't being punished or scrutinized much. GoJets now has established pay scales, union representation, and apparently is growing.

Dude the new Freedom folks were still in high school at pep rallies when the Freedom A thing went down. No need to scrutinize them and why punish them? Working there is punishment enough. The A list is out there. Beyond that the Freedom B folks are legit.

Its amazing how anonymity will give a person balls. Keep flipping your I.D. badge around.

Joe I understand that and that was the point. At what point do we accept GoJets as a regional carrier and consider the "newhires" legit?

This is a professional forum. Keep the flamebait and insults to yourselves. Either discuss it in a professional manner or take it to flightinfo.

Oh ok, just misunderstood it I guess.
As far as GoJets I'd say its going to be quite some time before anyone considers accepting them. I think once the Freedom folks became ALPA is when they became legit. As long as GoJets was started under the auspices of undermining the Trans States folks in a nonunion manner and remaining that way, I'd say they are SOL.

ok EMB FO.....Im sure your vast experience will school me on the industry...

as for balls I have never seen such cowards as young regional FOs that talk smack on here but run and hide in public.....I know furloughed AA that work at Gojet and they say no one has BALLS to say a thing ....they just laugh at you.

I am not a Gojet pilot....but I sure would say if I was....a matter a fact if it makes you dry out your eyes .....you can say I am all you want......

I love to see regional boys get a slice of their own......keep flying bigger planes ( painted in mainline colors on their routes ) and then complain when someone 'steals' your flying :-)

why do you think mainline pilots had to give away that flying.....the bar was being lowerd by SJS'rs and they had no choice since you were willing to do their job for pennies on a $......thanks for brining it down for all of us

Bottom line the Mainline attitude on this is.....well there is none.....and never will be....those guys are getting hired anywhere they want...get over it and insert your binkys boys!
NEVER FORGET

Which post was over-the-top?

Have the size of their fleets shrunk? How many routes did they actually give up? Last I checked I never saw a mainline flight from Houston to Odessa or Cincinnati to Dayton. Regionals exist because there was market availability for them. Regionals didn't "steal" anyone's flying. They simply became part of the infrastructure opening air travel to more markets and more people.

flight attendant then? big deal

actually i do, and so do other people i know that were at trans states when the whole gojet thing happened. we usually try to educate the young first officers, because they really didn't know any better and wish they hadn't taken the gojets job offer. and we usually point out what trans states contract said and how every off the street captain (or trans states fo or captain that went over there, hence "furloughed AA") purposely and willfully helped trans states holdings violate a "legally binding" contract.

actually, there is plenty of mainline "attitude" on this. i jumpseat all the time on united and american, and occasionally on us airways. i have had first officers and captains on all three of those carriers talk about gojets in a manner that shows they know what actually happened and why those gojets pilots should be treated as turncoats. i have been told by captains on all three of those carriers that they refuse to let gojets pilots jumpseat on their planes. i have had first officers and captains on all three of those carriers ask me detailed questions about the trans states contract, the intitial startup of gojets, the "proposal" offered by trans states to the trans states pilots, etc. so there is plenty of mainline interest, attitude, and cohesion on this issue.

the pilots that went to gojets when it first started knew exactly what they were doing. anyone hired there since has found out quickly why it is they are treated as pariahs. i do not personally, nor do i encourage anyone else to, get in anyone's face in an angry manner, or get into shouting matches, or "lose" their carry on bags, etc. i have seen these things done, and by mainline employees (pilots and rampers). i'm not really sure why you personally feel you need to constantly defend gojet pilots. i'm actually now thinking you are not really a gojets flight attendant, which makes it even more confusing why you would be defending them so much.

oh, and i personally know a gojets pilot who was specifically denied a job at a mainline carrier because he works at gojets. he was told that, to his face, by a captain in his interview. the interview ended right then. i do not say that to gloat on the fact, i only say it to show you that you are wrong when you say that there are no consequences to working at gojets.

all the pilots that work at gojets and have ever worked at gojets got jobs because they were willing to purposely violate a contract of an existing pilot group. there are people who did not know that at the time that they started working there, but they quickly learn that. anyone that stays past the point of enlightenment on that issue never deserves forgiveness.

I would be a street CA... BWAHAHAHA!!! Couldn't keep a straight face on that one. It works on so many levels...

Well there's no way to change the way they were started but at least they are union now! None the less, any pilot looking at starting a professional pilot career needs to spend a little more time researching his potential employer before signing on the dotted line. Those who do and don’t do the above research and still sign on with BlowJet, don’t deserve any respect. Sadly it will be a long long time before they do, but someday the sun will set and new day will arise.

I have a hard time forgiving stupidity, the ignorant can be educated but stupidity’s forever.

So do you have the same resentment towards Freedom newhires? Where's the real difference now? They both have unions.

i do not like to give opinions about things that i don't know enough about. freedom is one of those things. i know the original concept, but i don't know what became of it.

i was at trans states and lived through the gojets debacle. to say that gojets has a union now and should therefore be forgiven (if that's what you're saying?), is completely ridiculous. they had a union the day they started. 4 management people from trans states were the first 4 pilots on the gojets seniority list, and they immediately sent in teamsters cards. they "had a union" from day one, at least in the sense of inevitibility. that does nothing to diminish the fact that the trans states pilots contract (remember, "legally binding contract") specifically forbade the company from populating an altar ego carrier with anyone from outside the trans states seniority list. that same contract also specified pay rates. when the company came back to the pilot group many months later with a sham proposal, with lower pay and jacked up seniority list "merging", we voted it down because they had blatantly violated the contract. the arbitration judge sided with the company. so much for "legally binding", right? who cares if the teamsters are in there now? that means nothing.

Are you still at Trans ore are you a captain somewhere else?

giving the CRJ in his profile, i'd assume somewhere else.

As far as Freedom, i understood it as they're under a single seniority list now w/ regular mesa, and the forming of that list, created the "peaceful" situation that now exists, minus the freedom A guys, or the general feeling that's gotten when the name freedom comes up.

I'd see a merging of the seniority lists at GoJet / TSA as the end of the debacle, as there would be legitimate TSA employees working under TSA holdings for GoJet Airlines, at which point, things would probably mellow out some. However, those initial individuals would still be thought of in the same manner as the Freedom A listers....While TSA holdings was apparently pushing for seniority list merger language in the GoJet contract, it sounds like the company knows the potential to have this event actually occur in the future, on the contrary, the GoJet pilots were against the merger language, as i'm sure plenty are worried about the effects of a merger when one company is a mere 2 years old, and the other more than 20.

The fact that I am an FO at a regional is not at all an indicator of what my experience or time in the industry is. You make a lot of assumptions. The rest of your post is rubbish.

Can't we just get back to asking controllers what company Lindbergh is????