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Old 11-26-2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
...you get paid by the minute, right?
Yea.. But not enough to make me want to sit there and hold. Ask me the same question in a few years.
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Old 11-27-2007 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by YourCptSpeaking
NightSky got it right...to land you need to have the required FLIGHT VISIBILITY, which if you have, will automatically guarantee you have the proper ceiling, so long as you don't bust minimums...basically this means that if you can see the runway environment at the MAP, then you have the required visibility and ceiling; if you can't, you don't.
In 121 this applies for precision approaches, and most non-precision approaches.

But each airline's OPSPECs are different, and many specify certain situations where both vis AND cig are limiting for commencing an approach. This is airline-specific and you don't need to know the details for an interview.
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Old 11-27-2007 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In 121 this applies for precision approaches, and most non-precision approaches.

But each airline's OPSPECs are different, and many specify certain situations where both vis AND cig are limiting for commencing an approach. This is airline-specific and you don't need to know the details for an interview.
Very true when you're talking about commencing the approach...to actually land though, the flight visibility takes precedence every time because those are actual conditions, not forecast or reported. 91 or 121.
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Old 11-28-2007 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wingnutC-17
To add another shade of gray to the answer of your question. It also depends on if the approach is a straight-in (Vis only) or circle (Vis & Cieling). It gets more complicated when you throw in RVR, RVV, Tower Vis vs official wx, etc.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you need ceiling for a circling approach. The only time I am aware of a specific ceiling requirement is for filing an alternate, high mins captains, and some airports with a ceiling requirement for takeoff (ie KIPT, Williamsport PA, RW27)
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Old 11-28-2007 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rustypigeon
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you need ceiling for a circling approach. The only time I am aware of a specific ceiling requirement is for filing an alternate, high mins captains, and some airports with a ceiling requirement for takeoff (ie KIPT, Williamsport PA, RW27)

Depends on the OPSPEC. Most (or all) CRJ operators have a CIG requirement for "circling" approaches.
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Old 11-28-2007 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
...you get paid by the minute, right?
Well said, I can make 75 minimum guarantee at home, I come to work to make money, I like to take it slow, in the name of safety of course
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Old 11-28-2007 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirPIC
It's great hearing gen. aviation aircraft getting in when you are out holding waiting for the weather and vis to pick up.
Army Aircraft can attempt the approach regardless of the weather too. For the 121 guys out there, can you substitue a PIREP from a preceding aircraft for the "official" weather observation. Case being, you're in holding waiting for the weather to come up above the mins, I shoot the approach in my Armyized King Air and make it in (legally of course) and report back to ATC that I had the ceiling and visibility to make it in. At that point can you attempt the approach?
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