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POPA 11-28-2007 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 270686)
When and where? I'd like to see anything backing this up. Why are the 140's hunks of junk? Most people that fly them with the Univerals and the sunshades in the cockpit seem to prefer them over the 145s.

They're underpowered and overweight.

Koolaidman 11-28-2007 08:10 PM

There is supposed to be "big" news at SkyWest in the future. Here is a possibility...

SkyWest signs a deal with American to do regional flying. Before Brad Holt went over to ASA, he sent out a letter showing how many upgrades and new hires for the next six months. The letter expected 60 new-hires a month. The thing that got my attention in the letter was that he said he feels there will be good opportunities for growth. That leads me to believe that he just put a number out there and we will need more pilots than what he is putting on paper.

SAPA says our President, Chipper Childs, wants to have a new payscale in place by Janaury 1st. My guess is so they can have an idea on pilot costs when they bid for whatever regional flying is left out there. The best rumor has been flying for Southwest. But what if Southwest is actually American?

ToiletDuck 11-28-2007 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 270698)
They're underpowered and overweight.

Where are there any statements that support that our company "have already made it clear we have no interest in pursuing our contract beyond the current term."? Any proof at all would be nice.

ANPBird 11-28-2007 08:56 PM

Duck, I finally just read your tag line, and yes I am a little bit slow! Made me laugh! Feel like whistling tomorrow when I pack because I know i'm looking forward to leaving the 25 degree wx in the midwest for some nice warmer flying out in California for the next week! However, I never look forward to leaving my family! As for the second part, my wife reminds me of that all the time.

ToiletDuck 11-28-2007 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by ANPBird (Post 270732)
Duck, I finally just read your tag line, and yes I am a little bit slow! Made me laugh! Feel like whistling tomorrow when I pack because I know i'm looking forward to leaving the 25 degree wx in the midwest for some nice warmer flying out in California for the next week! However, I never look forward to leaving my family! As for the second part, my wife reminds me of that all the time.

:D Yea I was flying with a captain and he's married and told me if I ever wanted
to have a long lasting relationship as a pilot there were two rules to live by.

1. Never whistle while packing
2. Always come home h**ny lol.

SharkyBN584 11-28-2007 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by boilerpilot (Post 270380)
So what does this mean for the American Connection carriers that are basically leasing airplanes for their operations like TSA and RAH (CHQ)? Weren't they leasing them from Eagle or, perhaps more correctly, AMR? And for their contracts, which I thought were up for renewal in 2011?

It doesn't really mean anything for RAH. Our AA planes have nothing to do with Eagle. Also, the flying we do under the AA banner is carry-over from TWA. When AA bought/merged with TWA, we kept doing the same flying for AA as we had been for TWA only with a different paint scheme. Hence the reason every single one of our AA planes is STL based. Naturally, since we kept the contract and started flying with the name "American" on the side, Eagle believes we stole their flying. Figure that one out. :rolleyes:

TD - while it's never been "officially" said, it's a common belief that the AA flying will go away once the contract is up. Mostly based on BB's numerous comments regarding his feelings on 50 seat (or less) flying.

Sbaker1595 11-28-2007 10:29 PM

ive been following eagle recentley......i have an interview on december 18th and have many friends working there now......Eagle is a large airline and has plenty of $$$$....i have heard many times before that eagle managment is trying to pull somthing simialar to what Xjet did......i think the buyer of eagle will be eagle.....im thinking an IPO is on the horizon for shure.....im very excited about this actually.....a change in management at eagle will yeild a diffent outlook for the company....AKA the company will finially start flowing....upgrades will be somthing tangable and not a pie in the sky hopefully!! cant wait to see what happens!!!

ToiletDuck 11-29-2007 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 270741)
TD - while it's never been "officially" said, it's a common belief that the AA flying will go away once the contract is up. Mostly based on BB's numerous comments regarding his feelings on 50 seat (or less) flying.

BB can have all the feelings he wants and common belief here doesn't seem to hold much water. Unlike Delta and and US Airways we can't toss 170/175s on the flying. AA flying is making money. There are provisions in place that make it beneficial for AA to keep their flying with us once the current contract is over with. At no point has the company stated anything about us dropping the flying and word of mouth doesn't mean anything here. If it did then CLE would already be a base and CMH would have already been closed down along with GSO and possibly few others. My beliefs of BB's statements involve Delta and US where we had the option to do something else. Unless we have one massive staffing issue and a few 170/175s parked on the ramps it doesn't seem logical. At no point has anyone made it "clear that we are not interested in pursuing our contract beyond the current term". I'm going to toss that statement in the pile along with us supposedly trying to pick up 190s, wanting to get ETOPS rated 170/175s, and how upgrades were expected to be around 3yrs at this point in time.

SharkyBN584 11-29-2007 06:03 AM

At least one analyst is calling any potential sale a bust and I tend to agree. Eagle will remain their own deal because in the end, no one wants to buy old jets, really old t-props, and a ****ed off pilot group.

flyguy81 11-29-2007 06:13 AM

the 140's aren't crap. i much prefer them to the 145's. they're not underpowered, i was doing 3000 fpm yesterday out of MSP nearly full. the sunshades and FMS makes it tons better than the 145. I rarely have a broken plane on the AA side. The 145's are always broke. While they are overweight with 44 adults and 60 bags, that not an airplane issue, that's a weight and balance number issue.


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