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SkyWest and Southwest
I was at sim the past few days and I kept hearing about the "Southwest rumour". As much as I just want to laugh and think everone is nuts, part of me thinks there could be some truth to this rumor. If it's true, it leaves two realities. SkyWest grows a bunch more, the hope of moving to a major takes another step backwards.
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Not quite...if it were true, we'd probably be doing addt'l flying, not replacement flying - routes that can't support a 737 (when WN goes in, they take no prisoners with 8 non-stops to everywhere haha). It would be great in that you upgrade quick...but bittersweet nonetheless.
What a crazy world. We'll just have to wait and see. This is one of those times I can't help but be flabbergasted - plausible and insane at the same time, it just boggles my mind haha. |
apparently this rumor was started by southwest pilots to lock up their upcoming contract. Some of their pilots knew that their contract had gaps in it that needed to be filled. They started spreading around rumors of management fishing for regional codeshare which their current contract neglected to specifically dis-allow. Their new contract (it isnt official yet) is much more aggressive against codesharing, co-ops, and interline agreements but no one knows what the final wording will be in their "regional codeshare" section.
i would bet... almost guarantee that if sky west was given a codeshare with southwest that their pilots would have a little something to say. Especially when the rest of their new contract has a pretty awesome scope clause. There are also a lot of too far fetched things about the original rumor for me to believe. 100 90 seater's? too close to the 737 and way to large of an order for an untested adventure. very unlike southwest's business model and thoughts on cut throat business. They are discussing this in the Majors category on this forum with more detailed info on their scope. check it out. |
There's as much truth to this rumor as there is to the 170 for CAL rumor at RAH. At least most of the people at RAH know it ain't gonna happen....
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
(Post 273584)
apparently this rumor was started by southwest pilots to lock up their upcoming contract. Some of their pilots knew that their contract had gaps in it that needed to be filled. They started spreading around rumors of management fishing for regional codeshare which their current contract neglected to specifically dis-allow. Their new contract (it isnt official yet) is much more aggressive against codesharing, co-ops, and interline agreements but no one knows what the final wording will be in their "regional codeshare" section.
i would bet... almost guarantee that if sky west was given a codeshare with southwest that their pilots would have a little something to say. Especially when the rest of their new contract has a pretty awesome scope clause. There are also a lot of too far fetched things about the original rumor for me to believe. 100 90 seater's? too close to the 737 and way to large of an order for an untested adventure. very unlike southwest's business model and thoughts on cut throat business. They are discussing this in the Majors category on this forum with more detailed info on their scope. check it out. |
Everyone has said Skywest will have another partner next year. I say US Air to take Mesa's place? The only thing I can see Southwest wanting a 100 seat airplane for is international ops. However, with ATA, I'm not sure if they need that?
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I agree - Mesa is on the way out at USAir...and we may be in a good position...Also, curious when IAD-flying for UAL will materialize. It's just a matter of time.
Everybody got excited a while back when we first got Jepp's for IAD...what they failed to realize was that we had been flying ATLIAD in the CR9...don't see it on the route-map anymore however. JetJock16 - anything to add? |
Unfortunately our flying in ATL is decreasing every month. I’ve flown ATL-HOU more than any other ATL route and in JAN 9E will get the honors. It’s OK, it’s not a reduction in SKW flying seeing that every block hour pulled from ATL gets added somewhere out west. From an Email we received it looks like we’ll be down to a fraction of our current fly by the end of next summer. Although they tell us they will not close the base seeing there are routes that 9E can't fly due to their contract with NWA. Instead they will maintain ATL’s current size and flow us through DEN, ORD and SLC. In NOV I had two trips that included ORD CR7 flying and third had me spend a day in the DEN system.
I can see it now, by the end of next year the only destinations we will have in ATL is MSP, MEM & DTW (all NWA domiciles)! LOL! |
As for SWA flying...............no I don't think so. Although I do think we will get more UAL flying seeing that we've proven to be their go to guys, poor JO! :D
Not sure about the US Airways flying, I know AWAC and RAH will get the majority of it but we might end up with something. Only time will tell, the only thing I'm sure of is that most of it will come at Mesa's expense. |
Absolutely...it's too bad for a lot of people that JO never learned how to play nice, and actually be human ::gasp::
UAL it is. |
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