Judging from your history of vehemently anti-union posts I presumed that you were at least familiar with the provisions of the RLA, thats the Railway Labor Act by the way. You might want to check it out considering that it affects your profession...

I normally try to refrain from personal attacks but you have repeatedly made posts criticizing our efforts in attempting to achieve a fair contract, notably picketing. If you are going to take such a position, that is fine and I respect every individuals right to have an educated opinion. However I can not respect somebody who does not understand the most basic concepts that affect the industry yet is in the habit of making posts such as these:

I believe that at some point you also compared airline unions to the mob...

 

Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Correct me if I am wrong here, but from what I read, Lorenzo built what is known as the modern Continental, which alot of our fellow pilots work for and has been voted #1 airline in America by several entities. How can that be so bad?

OMG! What kind of revisionist history are you reading?

Frank Lorenzo nearly destroyed Continental! How many other people in history have ever been BANNED by the federal government from ever owning an airline again?

Gordon Bethune saved Continental from the edge of a liquidation and turned the post-Lorenzo ugly duckling into a beautiful swan with grit, hard work, and a lot of employee sacrifice. Read "Worst to First" if you want to see what a mess Lorenzo left for Gordon.

Let's see. You "read" that Lorenzo built the modern Continental. You've never heard of the Railway Labor Act. What the h*** do you know about your profession anyways? Not a whole lot, it seems.

 

Is texaspilot76 for real?? i was looking for that quote about continental but couldn't find it. is he really saying that lorenzo made continental what it is today?? they same guy who is barred from having anything to do with the airline industry??? and then he doesn't even know that our industry falls under the RLA wether you belong to a union or not...

 

Would it surprise anyone to know that companies sometimes put spies/moles on internet forums...particularly when there is considerable friction between mgmt and labor?

I'm not saying texaspilot76 is...

 

Of course I have heard of the Railway Act, but I never understood it to prevent unions from striking. From what i understand, government employees are the only ones that are not allowed to strike.

All I was asking was when the strike started. I am hoping they do, because I am very interested to see what happens. I was not inviting all these slams that you people decided to throw on me.

As far as my previous posts, such as the post regarding Eastern, was gathered from information I researched in college, plus from a video I saw about the history of Eastern and airline deregulation. The video was very unbiased. Lorenzo alone was not the ONLY reason Eastern folded. The beligerant labor unions also had a factor in the demise of Eastern. Even then, Eastern probably wouldn't have survived the era of deregulation.

I respect you guys opinions, however, I do not appreciate the attacks. I would never belittle you despite that I may not share your beliefs.

 

Oh, and since you brought up the mob comment, that was in reference to union guys ganging up on pilots that didn't share the same beliefs with them by denying jumpseats. That is totally wrong.

I could care less if Pinnacle strikes or not. I don't work there, it has no effect on me whatsoever. I am just curious to see what happens. I have not seen a strike at the airlines since i got into the business. With the current pilot shortage, I assume Pinnacle can't afford to fire everyone that strikes and replace them. I am real curious to what they will do.

 

My friend....you leave a lot to be desired. I don't work for PNCL, but I feel hurt with your comments. If your airline was in the same situation you would be receiving alot of support from your fellow pilots at other airlines. It's a industry standard that has been lowered by management and it affects us all. You sound like someone who would step on their fellow pilot group just to get ahead. Are you a Gojetter!!! You did'nt feel a thing when you walked over TSA, when they where in the same boat as 9E. I guess you don't mind going to fly their CRJ900's if they strike!

For all the PNCL guys and girls on this thread push on with getting the release from the NMB and stick it to management where it hurts the most. Most of us SJS guys are right behind you. We all walk the same path.

 

The average person only works for Pinch a nickle for maybe 4 years. The goal is to build time and get the hell out. People who go there knowing exactly what they are getting into. Why not just work for a better place and let the company sink.

Still...people go there and we end up with jackasses flying 90 seat equipment for sixty grand a year(pinnacle, mesa) allowing the mainline to reduce jobs, completely screwing every other pilot out there out of a decent living wage. What was the profession paying for 90 seats 15 years ago? How will this trend end? Same wages as that of a bus or truck driver? Good luck with the second job.

What exactly is the Strike for anyway? Anything specific? 3 dollars more per hour? Good luck!!

FYI the Railway Labor Act is the exact reason we are not allowed overtime pay.

 

Can't somebody just go on strike and challenge the RLA in court? Anybody tried that yet?

 

Thanks to President Regan ....your day in court fighting the RLA will be an unfruitful event. Just ask a few ATC controllers who striked in the 80's.