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JoeyMeatballs 12-13-2007 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 278575)
Failing out of 121 (or 135) training completely is going to make life hard for a while, but once you do get a job somewhere (probably a bottomfeeder) you can build experience and let the passage of time diminish the significance of the original failure. Just don't make any more mistakes.

What you DO NOT want to do is have a repetive history of 121 training failures and problems...this is why PRIA was created in the first place, and no airline will want the liability of your record. In the event an accident you'd be a plaintiff attorney's wet dream :eek:

Failing a checkride (or a part of a checkride) and having to repeat it should not be a big deal as long as you don't make a habit of it.

Also avoid failing your initial upgrade/ATP checkride at a regional
. People understand how new-hire FO's can be overwhelmed by the new environment, but an upgrade should know what he's getting into...a failure in that case would be assumed to be lack of innate ability or work ethics.


Well, I dunno but I would say most failures in 121 come from the type rides..................not saying it's ok, just saying there are a lot of guys that busted their type rides............

Dash8Guy 12-14-2007 02:35 PM

You guys are making these checkrides sound fricken scary as hell! :(

ExperimentalAB 12-14-2007 02:52 PM

Your first one is an awful experience - I think they get a little easier with time...until that initial upgrade :D

Slice 12-14-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8Guy (Post 279847)
You guys are making these checkrides sound fricken scary as hell! :(

They're not if you know your stuff. The programs were designed for pilots of moderate experience levels, not 300-500 hour types.

ExperimentalAB 12-14-2007 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Slice (Post 279864)
They're not if you know your stuff. The programs were designed for pilots of moderate experience levels, not 300-500 hour types.

Yes, but even those 300-500 hr guys can do it...reference myself when I first came to 121, as well as several others that I know. Don't flip out. Just be sharp.

rickair7777 12-14-2007 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 278638)
Well, I dunno but I would say most failures in 121 come from the type rides..................not saying it's ok, just saying there are a lot of guys that busted their type rides............

My experience (regional level) has been that most failures are new-hires.


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