American Eagle F/O's
 

Whatever you choose...

So its that open with AE right now?

Last thing I've heard is that AE is giving choice of base.
http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...can_eagle.html

If this has changed recently, I sure would like to know about it!

i think MIA is the only one they wont let you choose now? But that is just what ive heard. All others are open. You will be on reserve a while if you go to LAX or LGA... probably a year at LAX and maybe 5 or 6 months at LGA. ORD is the most junior, you probably wont be on reserve for more than a month there. BOS and DFW are fairly junior too, you should only be on reserve for 2 maybe 3 months or less. I have no idea about San Juan.

You can still choose your base. BTW

Last I heard, MIA and LAX were no longer options for new hires...If you were interested in either of these, I would look into it.

Be careful. Did you hear about the FOR SALE sign going up?

Yeah. And there is more potential room for good things than bad things from a sale, but you probably already know that...

Once we are out of the scope with American we can fly for other carriers and purchase larger aircraft, and leave plenty of room to begin growth. A sale doesnt mean the company is going to go belly up and dump 3000 pilots on the street. nice try though.

Thats somewhat incorrect, You can choose anybase you want. At ORD and BOS you will be off reserve the quickest (2-3 months). Followed by LGA (3-5). You will not be able to hold LAX EMJ for atleast 1-2 yrs. DFW has a much longer reserve (1+ yrs)

I don't want to hijack Fileater55's thread, but I started a related thread two days ago in the New Hire section titled "AE Corporate Culture." I've yet to receive any replys. I'd appreciate some feedback over there if y'all don't mind. :)

Back on topic, a friend of mine at ORD on the ERJ has been on reserve for a year, but still blocking 90+. I'm not sure what the reserve flying is like at the other bases and A/C. But it may have an impact on what base you choose.

Boiler, if he's on reserve in ORD on the EMJ after a year it's because he's bidding it, not because he can't hold it. I was hired last December and all the guys from my class in ORD have been holding hard lines since mid summer. I couldn't hold a Composite Line until Oct and this month is my first Relief Line (DFW).

And if you guys think Eagle being divested will be a good thing before bad, you're smokin' crack!

Yeah, one thing that has not been mentioned is how a sale affect hiring choosing domicle status. One thing that bugs me being BOS based is we will lose rights to fly that shuttle routes under APA's scope. Definitly puts BOS and LGA domicles in trouble. The company admited that they will lose roughly 250 point to point flights out of the NE and RDU. Service will definity be scaled back, whether it amounts to furlough or not who knows.

IMO, the very public announcement of AE being "available" is probably disingenuous. The value of the RJ is slipping and will slip even more with rising fuel prices. Any sale would almost certainly be accompanied by a contract to provide feed for AA, at much lower market rates than AE is currently subsidized by AMR now. AE can start competing with the likes of Mesa, et al. In that case, scope restrictions remain enforceable.

Whatever happens, you can bet it's not going to be good for any of the employees.

<DING><DING> Game on!

I'll grab the popcorn.

Nothing but doom and gloom sometimes around here.

Eagle is still offering its choice of domicile.

With my class ( 30 of us) here is the breakdown:
3 ATR (2 MIA/1 SJU)
8 SAAB (mix of LAX/DFW)
19 ERJ (BOS/ORD/DFW)

The class that followed me had only one guy go to the ATR (because he picked SJU) and everyone else got the ERJ and CRJ.

If you want MIA, they will ask you if you are willing to take SJU. There are 3 guys in my class that are transitioning from the ATR to the ERJ out of MIA. They said the reserve there for a new hire is anywhere from 2-6 months.

Hope this helps.

How long is reserve at LAX?

I think they measure rsv out there in years

Anyone have an idea of how long it is taking the new hires on the ATR or Saab to upgrade? Then, afterwards, how long does it take for a new CA on the ATR or Saab to get the 1000 hrs PIC?


atp

I think they measure upgrades out there in generations

What's that? LAX? I don't see it.

Shoot man, I'm here in sunny SE Florida. I read earlier where AE is allowing NH's to pick a base; MIA would obviously be my first choice.


atp

MIA = ATR only. (nothing wrong with the ATR, just lettin' ya know)

"Whatever happens, you can bet it's not going to be good for any of the employees."

For the record, I didn't say this. Thanks RJ for fixing your typo, you really are a nice guy.

matlock:

If things work out that way; that's fine by me. Btw, would you happen to know what is the upgrade time in the ATR out of MIA? Is it as long as any other domicile?

Since I'm on a roll...do any of you believe that with the passage of the age 65 legislation, that 121 pax FO pay will increase? My reason for asking is that a conclusion could be drawn that signals movement among FO's jockeying for position in terms of upgrade, pay, QOL, etc. since they will be sitting in the right seat for a bit longer.

Disclaimer: This question is not intended to start another debate about the age 65 issue or which airline FO's pay is the worst. I'm just trying to spur some discussion. Thx.


atp

No
Nuff said

I honestly think ATR CA in MIA is around 15 years seniority, and LAX Saab is around 6-7 years seniority. I don't know on a Turbo-Prop, but on the jet it takes about 13-17 months for 1000 hrs of PIC Turbine.

Would someone please second this for me! I can't believe that figure.

Sincerely,
Apollo

What are the trips like out of DFW for the Saab and ERJ? How long is reserve running on each of them?

Ask, and you shall recieve
 

https://department.jetnet.aa.com/AEP...nes/dfwjet.pdf

https://department.jetnet.aa.com/AEP...es/dfwsaab.pdf


Not sure about rsv, maybe a year?

Thanks, but the links go to a login page instead of the PDF file.

hmm, let me see if I can figure it out. People have sent me the bid pages on pdf before.

Hey, coldpilot
 

Pm me your e-mail, I had to put it in text format.

...."and airlines may have to start paying for early schooling for pilots and raise starting salaries for pilots, currently as low as $24,000 a year."



This is a quote from the the thread suggesting that the WSJ is on to us; us being regional pilots with low TT. What's your take on this cessna157? Nuff said???;)

atp

I heard the same thing in the crew room in lax from the chief. He also said that it will affect the LAX EMJ. LAX will lose the flying from SNA and SJC

According to the last seniority list that I saw, the junior Miami ATR CA award was hired in Oct. 99. Any upgrade at Eagle is about 8 years. Doubt it will really get much better. Only was 140 or so flowbacks left there before I left Eagle, and a TON of very senior FOs waiting for only the EMJ or CRJ upgrade.

I know that AE is notorious for their slow upgrade. But something has to give sooner or later?!

Thanks IQuitEagle. :rolleyes: