Mesaba
 

Is Mesaba working on a new contract soon?

$31/hour for a 3rd year CRJ-900 FO is horrific!

Just happened to look at that, and I thought "they've gotta be working on something..." Any news?

Yep. NWA mainline FO pay for that size aircraft is a bit higher. I really do hope they are working on something, seeing how Mesaba and Compass is currently Northwest's mainline growth.

Our contract is concessionary right now, from when we were 'taken' into BK. It is my understanding that once we take delivery of all new airplanes our pay will snap back to what it used to be. But don't quote me on that...I really need to read the contract thoroughly. There are guys on here that know better than me.

Our concessionary agreement is amendable in 2012. Mesaba has always been on the low side paywise for jet FO's. We have a blended FO pay rate. Consequently, the Saab FO's are a bit above average, while the jet FO's are below. We do have snapback provisions in the current TA, but it only puts us back to where we were we would have been in 2008 under the old contract. The snapbacks start Dec 1, 2008 and add 1-2% per year until 2010 when we will be fully wage "recovered."

What is the "recovered" rate? Moreover, what were the rates in 2006?

I was hoping you would clarify...I knew you'd know.

3rd year FO pay in 2010 will be $34.13/hr

I edited my earlier post to clarify the wage recovery. The snapbacks implemented through 2010, will take us back to where we would have been in 2008 with no bankruptcy.

Remember, it is a "blended" rate. That's good for the Saab FO's, and bad for the jet FO's. It is what it is. All the more incentive to upgrade as soon as possible.

It pays to read the contract ;)

Yes it does and Im making an effort to now. But during initial training, I never picked that thing up. Had too much other crap to learn.

Anybody have a table of what the payrates will be come Dec. 1?

Go see the other mesaba thread someone copied it in there

This is the worst! Pay should start good and continue on. Upgrade shouldn't be the deal maker. FO's should make way more and this attitude that you should upgrade is ridiculous.

cough*flamebait*cough ;)

Are you saying that's a good thing?

Its a paycheck.

Care to enlighten us about GoJet's 3rd year pay?

And the next time positions on the ALPA negotiating team opens up, I really do hope you are first in line. IF you were not there during the time NW announced its intent to cancel all Avro flying, or during contract talks that engaged after 9/11, then you would know the scope of what was at stake in terms of contractual pay and benefits.
This is not to be meant an "in your face" response, but we were dealing with, and I will use managements terms, draconian cuts, across the board. We did what he had to do, and let our union reps negotiate on our behalf. We also had the benefit of voting against the TA, for which I was one. But when it was ratified, I got in line and stood behind in 100%.
I left after 7.5 years in October 2006, so I was not privvy to the dealings with the concessionary contract. But as history dictates with the Mesaba labor group, they will be fighting for every penny, for every pilot, even if during such times that market conditions warrant otherwise.