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Originally Posted by GRDHound (Post 283944)

Since when do hiring standards make someone an experienced pilot?

I Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by btwissel (Post 283902)

no, actually it doesn't.

anti-skid is the same thing as anti-lock brakes in cars. it keeps the wheels from locking when you go ham-fisting the brakes. if the wheels spin, then you can control. once they lock up, you have no control over them.

OK seriously did you even read my post? I said the same thing you did.

You just re-worded what I said but made it sound like it was your idea :).

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Originally Posted by Lbell911 (Post 283913)

We also know that since AWAC requires 500 ttl and 125-me, it wasn't a "low timer" pilot either......NTSB will release all the facts soon.....

We hire guys with less that 500/125....if you have an internal rec....there really is no time requirement...i know a few guys who got hired on with 250/50

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Originally Posted by Lbell911 (Post 283913)

We also know that since AWAC requires 500 ttl and 125-me, it wasn't a "low timer" pilot either......NTSB will release all the facts soon.....

When their mins were 1500TT/250 multi they were hiring 300-400 hour pilots, so those posted mins really don't mean $#@^.

I see a dead horse. Yup. It's being beaten, too.

We don't know how much time either pilot had, so get off it.

Some people know...but they ain't talking, at least not yet.

Well I am tired so I hope this comes out right. I have been gone with the family for a few days so I am rather shocked at how much this thread has created. I intended to post this as a positive, not to create rocker chair quarter backs on what the pilots should have or shouldn't have done. We were not there and that is that. From what I can read in this "one" article it sounds like this crew did a stand up job of taking care of the pax after the fact.
All we hear these days is how pilots are not worth the money the company pays us. But as we all know there is more to flying than just pushing the AP button. These guys for what ever reason touched down hard and ran off the runway but when the dust settled they followed through with their training and took care of the pax in a professional manner just the way we should. (from what I read). I guess what I was getting at was not how much time the pilots did have or didn't have but that they did their job and did it professionally even if they did screw up the landing. We all screw things up it is just how we deal with the results that determins wether or not you are a good pilot. In this time of reducing capacity and potential mergers there will be plenty of time to rip on each other, (like it or not). So I was just trying to show an example of pilots doing their job, all of it, not just the easy part. Rip on!

good post, I agreee with what was said above. besides, this could have happened to anybody. the crj200 is not an easy plane to fly, and there are certain phases of flight (landing in particular), where if you don't do things right, the plane won't forgive you. so, relax everybody, fly safe, and have a great holidays season!