ASA lowers mins to "NONE" with those who have a CRJ Course
 

I am looking to apply at the Air Inc Career Fair in Dallas on Jan 26th.....So I've begun researching each airline. I see that ASA has deleted the previous 300-ttl & 25-me time required to those who graduated a CRJ course. Guess they must really need pilots........I couldn't find on their website any postings of ordering new aircraft.......One would think with the new contract signed, they would be able to maintain pilots longer?

Minimums for Advanced Jet Training:
A multi-engine commercial instrument rating and completion of an advanced jet course is sufficient for an interview.
No minimum flight time requirement
Advanced Jet Training; includes: Transport Category Systems Training, Level 5/6 Jet FTD or Category C/D Jet Full Motion Simulator, Crew Concept Training, FMS Training Preferred, Glass Cockpit Preferred, Crew Resource Management (CRM) Training, Accelerated Jet Ground School
http://www.flyasa.com/careers/pilot.php

Wow! All this means ais that they will more than likely get through sim training and understand the systems going in. But it does nothing for the lack of flying experience in terms of hours...assuming they have very little.

And if they make it that far, they'll have no real PIC experience when they upgrade to CA...

Way to go ASA. WOW, that would make me feel real safe riding in the back knowing the FO has no flight experience.................

that does seem unsafe

That does suck. Doesn't mean they'll get hired though. They have to make it through the sim eval. just like everyone else.

Thats all anyone cares about. Sad.

This could put 190 hour pilots in the right seat of an RJ (141 commercial mins).

The race to the bottom continues. Glad I'm not a IOE guy over there.

Don't feel bad, ExpressJet has removed their number(s) and posted this on their website......

Pilots are responsible for ensuring the safety of ExpressJet customers while working cohesively with co-workers on the plane and on the ground. ExpressJet is recruiting skilled individuals with the drive to establish a career with the largest regional jet operation. If you do not qualify for our pilot position at this time, please reapply in three months. Minimum flight hours may fluctuate as the airline industry changes and ExpressJet grows.

http://expressjet.recruitmax.com/mai...dsToHighlight=

Is Expressjet even hiring?

Unbelievable. And just to think a Dual XC is going to be going on up in the cockpit with 50 people in the back.

Those mins are pretty much a de facto MPL. Without CRM from day one.

And the ground is rushing up to us fast everyone. Maybe our descent to the bottom will finally be reached. Can't go any lower than commercial minimums can we? Next up, $5000 signing bonuses.

When the guy changing your oil makes more than an SIC on an RJ it makes you wonder why no one seems to understand the coming storm for our industry. History seems to replay itself. I remember in the mid '90s a couple of the regional turboprop crashes were attributed to the backgrounds of certain Captains. PRIA was the result and people were concerned that if you rode on a turboprop you might meet the same fate. That's when Comair exploded. If a couple of crashes occur that are attributed to crew experience then things will get ugly. Ironically, two crashes did occur but received very little fallout so far. The most egregious were the 410 boys at Jeff City.

"This is *******(*& awesome dude! We made it!"

If that had killed any passengers that accident would have gone down in history as the worst accident regarding our professionalism and profession.

won't be jumpseating on here any more, too dangerous.

I think it is already because it was such an unnecessary loss of life. Nothing wrong with the airplane, just two pilots creating the problem for themselves. And I knew the captain when he was an instructor at Riddle....nice guy and pretty sharp, believe it or not.

As a Part-121 first officer, you will earn more than $22 per flight hour and fly under code share for a major airline. While flying as a first officer, you will have unrestricted airline jump seat authorization and worldwide pass privileges for you and your family. The Fast Track CRJ Training Program® takes the airline pilot candidate who already holds a commercial multi-engine and instrument rating directly into the right seat of a CRJ 200/700/900 flying under the colors of a major airline. If you do not already hold the aforementioned pilot ratings please see our Express Commercial Airline Pilot Program.® All training is approved by and conducted under Federal Aviation Regulation Parts- 61, 91, 121 and 142, when applicable

Well who are you going to commute on then? Hopefully you live in a city served by one major carrier from airport to airport.....

I mean the following are pretty much hiring at no mins:
ASA-none
Colgan-none
TSA-none
GoJet-none
PSA-none
Piedmont-none
ExpressJet-took their posted mins off-line, and post no mins now.
Mesa-none
AE-400/50
Big Sky-none
Republic-800 posted but been hiring at 300ttl
AWAC-500 posted but been hiring in the 300ttl range
Pinnacle-1000 posted but hiring at 250ttl
Spirit-hiring Embry Riddle Grads at 300ttl

Looks like you have Comass, Comair, & Skywest that are holding to 500+ total time.....hopefully you have them to take you to work :D:D

that pretty much sums it up... bad and good but as a soon to be new hire ill hate to have my capt and other capts out there being the teachers not that is bad at first but after a while it gets old...

I know IOE Captains at SKW complain about the 1000-hr guys here at times...can't imagine what it's like for their brothers at TSA/Mesa/etc...hiring CMEL guys!! eek...

Most not all, but most newhires at XJT have prior 121, 135 experiance. We get ALOT of people that leave the other regionals. That is how it has been up till now so i am unsure what XJT will be doing in the future. I will tell you that we arent hurting for applicants because higher time guys get turned down all the time here. FWIW

So what's your advice to a rotor guy with a bunch of flight time (helo) and 141 mins fixed wing? EMS? Chopper 4?
Inquiring minds want to know....

My given name is Benjamin Buford Blue, but people call me Bubba. Just like one of them ol' redneck boys. Can you believe that?

While I know of ONE person hired at RAH recently with less than 400 the lowest hours in my Shuttle Class is probably about 1200 with tops around 2800 or so. Average probably near 1500 hours or so, and 10 of 21 with prior 121 or 135 night freight time.

I read on their forum they're done with hiring till March/April

I guess that's why we have had pilots flunking left and right... AND THEY KEEP GIVING THEM EXTRA CHANCES LIKE CRAZZEE! There's a significant # of pilots coming through who have no instrument skills- can't hand fly to save their life. One was +/-1,500ft and +/-100kts just trying to stay level... wow. I am flabbergasted. Oh, and speak English? That is a plus these days too...
:(

a buddy of mine got hired there last week and they told him that he will be one of the last they will hire for a good while. everyone who was hired went into a pool for april/may.

I am in "IOE Guy" over there. I will admit some days are difficult, at best. Day 1 IOE, in and out of the world's busiest airport is a "challenge". However, I have been fortunate that I have never found any newhire to be unsafe. They do pass the same checkride I take ever 6/mo, with the exception of 1 maneuver. The lack of overall enroute IFR experience and handflight skills does show however.

Expressjet's website has always said that. I don't think they've ever posted their hiring minimums on the website.

Is this one true or is just a rumor being spread on this forums?

To make some of you guys feel better, I applied to quite a number of regionals and had my resume walked in to several. (even the ones hiring at commercial multi) I have about 300tt and 70 multi. I am still going to instruct, but just wanted to see what would happen if I actually got a call.

Guess what? I have not heard a thing from anyone except for airnet. I take that back, several came back with an e-mail and told me to get some more time. So i guess they are not hiring everyone at 300tt.

I thought I'd just throw that out there.

Every captain flying an RJ is a de facto IOE guy nowadays. The standard brief now includes, "Oh, BTW, this is just my second trip of OE...."

We've all been there at one time or other, but even I, who am quite tolerant, am tiring of the inability to get a proper ATC clearance, communicate properly with ATC, operate the systems with confidence/competence, etc.

If the airlines are going to hire low timers (not a bad thing in and of itself IMHO) then the FAA needs to make sure they have the basics of IFR down pat. Going from flying around the patch in a 172 to flying an RJ in and out of LGA is a pretty big leap.

When I was hired, there was a guy in the class that had about 1700tt. 1550 of that time was helo time. So I guess it can be done. He was a great guy with a really good attitude.

Nope, the hiring matrix has slowed down, I used to work there as a ramper, got hired by AE as an F.O. was told to go somewhere else, might not see any new faces there till FEB/MAR time period.

Lbell et al, you guys aren't considering the fact that, while they may not have "posted mins," unless you a) have a CRJ course or b) have some significant IFR experience in a twin, you're probably not going to make it through the interview. Also, any 250 hour guy better hit the books hard, because ATP-level questions not from the ATP Gleim book are probably app killers.

Even PSA states their "competitive" mins are 600TT...they're just building app pools. Any 250 hr guys with no jet course who somehow pass the interview will probably get washed out of 121 groundschool (hopefully). Honestly, I don't think the average dude with 250 hours w/o jet training/sim experience will make it. I hope not.

I interviewed with PSA with 650/50 with a jet course course and got the job. I have to say though they didnt have a problem finding all older 1000 + hour pilots which was the majority

Originally Posted by Lbell911 http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
Spirit-hiring Embry Riddle Grads at 300ttl

It's true, there were some stipulations. I know one guy got hired but he had way more than 300ttl.

That's because you are an FSU fan, and if you were a GATOR fan, they'd be knocking your door down!!!! :D:D:D

The original post (including header) specifically stated "....with those who have a CRJ Course".......

not a FSU fan... you are thinking of the wrong FSU. FSU as in Fairmont State. WVU fan here baby...

Ok, I stand corrected, and like your more now since you aren't a Florida State fan!!!!:D

Glad to see I'm not the only UF grad/fan in the industry.

Go Gators!