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redsox1 12-29-2007 12:57 PM

Skywest Info
 
Starting class for the crj soon, for skywest and would like some more info on them?

Any info on ground school

IOE is it at your base?

What are the average days you fly per month? Days off?

Average number of NIGHTS at home?

How long is upgrade to Captain?

How many legs on average do you fly?

Do they try to get everyone through training or do they send people packing?

Can you trip trade?

How hard to trade bases? Which are senior?

Anything else????

HercDriver130 12-29-2007 01:01 PM

You might try using the search function.......

CRJDriver 12-29-2007 01:45 PM

Umm... why didn't you ask those questions before you took a job at SkyWest?

flyguyniner11 12-29-2007 01:51 PM

I was just thinking that

reelbigchair 12-29-2007 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by redsox1 (Post 288751)
Starting class for the crj soon, for skywest and would like some more info on them?

1. Any info on ground school

2. IOE is it at your base?

3. What are the average days you fly per month? Days off?

4. Average number of NIGHTS at home?

5. How long is upgrade to Captain?

6. How many legs on average do you fly?

7. Do they try to get everyone through training or do they send people packing?

8.Can you trip trade?

9. How hard to trade bases? Which are senior?

10. Anything else????


I numbered your post for ease of answering, here goes....

1. that's a pretty open ended question... not sure what you're looking for.... start with indoc, then systems, then FTD, then Sim, then IOE

2. IOE will probably be at your base, but they may deadhead you somewhere they have a checkairman with an open spot.

3. min 11, average junior line holder can get 12 or 13, 14 if he's lucky. I can get 15 to 17 rather easily, I bid 20%.

4. most trips are 4 days and 2 days... this answer can vary wildly...

5. Junior capt on the jet was hired July 06 and he's based in Chicago... That may be misleading...we're very "fat" on captains in most bases now, so I suspect it'll continue to slow down. I would expect to be in the right seat for 3 years, and if you want bro capt figure 18-24 months.

6. Anywhere from 1 to 7 legs on the jet. The average ORD -200 4 day has 16 or 18 legs. The average ORD -700 4 day probably has 10-12.

7. If you're trying, they'll get you through... this is not TSA.

8. Of course

9. The process itself is easy...jet bases (I'm not familiar with seniority on the Bro, someone else will have to answer)
PSP, SBA, SMF are super senior
COS, TUS, DEN, SLC are generally attainable within a year as a FO
MKE, ORD are very junior, expect one of these out of training
SFO, LAX are reserve only... so only ABOUT 8 pilots total at each
ATL was fairly junior but it's shrinking so hard to know, probably in the same category as COS/DEN and so on

10. you failed to ask where the flight attendants are hottest... geez... priorities man..

Lbell911 12-29-2007 02:49 PM

nice post reelbigchair......ref #10

Roper92 12-29-2007 03:11 PM

I think Skywest has the best FA's in the regional world, but I have to hand it to CAL for best overall.

Colonel S 12-29-2007 03:15 PM

3. min 11, average junior line holder can get 12 or 13, 14 if he's lucky. I can get 15 to 17 rather easily, I bid 20%.


Min is actually 20 duty days per month meaning 10 or 11 depending on a 30 or 31 day bid. Those of us that are on permanent reserve know this all too well. 20%'ers forget :D I remember the days I bid great fo lines. I am sure our new pay package will include min 12 days off. Oh sh!+ I just spilled my koolaid all over the place.

reelbigchair 12-29-2007 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Colonel S (Post 288830)
3. min 11, average junior line holder can get 12 or 13, 14 if he's lucky. I can get 15 to 17 rather easily, I bid 20%.


Min is actually 20 duty days per month meaning 10 or 11 depending on a 30 or 31 day bid. Those of us that are on permanent reserve know this all too well. 20%'ers forget :D I remember the days I bid great fo lines. I am sure our new pay package will include min 12 days off. Oh sh!+ I just spilled my koolaid all over the place.

You'll have to forgive my small oversight there... I managed to avoid reserve so far...at SkyWest anyway

Colonel S 12-29-2007 04:37 PM

11 days off min is the rumor around the campfire.

skystruck 12-29-2007 06:23 PM

What does it mean to "bid 20%"?

doug_or 12-29-2007 06:40 PM

it means for every guy senior to him there are 4 junior to him

SharkAir 12-29-2007 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)
10. you failed to ask where the flight attendants are hottest... geez... priorities man..

I think they're in SLC.

ghilis101 12-30-2007 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 289030)
I think they're in SLC.

yea but theyre wilder in ORD!

SKYW2008 12-30-2007 03:57 AM

SFO, LAX are reserve only... so only ABOUT 8 pilots total at each
 

Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)
I numbered your post for ease of answering, here goes....

1. that's a pretty open ended question... not sure what you're looking for.... start with indoc, then systems, then FTD, then Sim, then IOE

2. IOE will probably be at your base, but they may deadhead you somewhere they have a checkairman with an open spot.

3. min 11, average junior line holder can get 12 or 13, 14 if he's lucky. I can get 15 to 17 rather easily, I bid 20%.

4. most trips are 4 days and 2 days... this answer can vary wildly...

5. Junior capt on the jet was hired July 06 and he's based in Chicago... That may be misleading...we're very "fat" on captains in most bases now, so I suspect it'll continue to slow down. I would expect to be in the right seat for 3 years, and if you want bro capt figure 18-24 months.

6. Anywhere from 1 to 7 legs on the jet. The average ORD -200 4 day has 16 or 18 legs. The average ORD -700 4 day probably has 10-12.

7. If you're trying, they'll get you through... this is not TSA.

8. Of course

9. The process itself is easy...jet bases (I'm not familiar with seniority on the Bro, someone else will have to answer)
PSP, SBA, SMF are super senior
COS, TUS, DEN, SLC are generally attainable within a year as a FO
MKE, ORD are very junior, expect one of these out of training
SFO, LAX are reserve only... so only ABOUT 8 pilots total at each
ATL was fairly junior but it's shrinking so hard to know, probably in the same category as COS/DEN and so on

10. you failed to ask where the flight attendants are hottest... geez... priorities man..


Could someone get SFO just out of training if they stay on reserve?

YAKflyer 12-30-2007 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by SKYW2008 (Post 289176)
Could someone get SFO just out of training if they stay on reserve?

There are only four FO's based in SFO.......all on reserve and all senior enough to be captains at another base.

ExperimentalAB 12-30-2007 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 289173)
yea but theyre wilder in ORD!

Naw...only flown with a couple of those here LoL

My vote is on SLC, hands down!!

ExperimentalAB 12-30-2007 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by skystruck (Post 288989)
What does it mean to "bid 20%"?

Easiest to understand it as bidding number 20 out of 100, or 40 out of 200, etc...

JetJock16 12-30-2007 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)
3. min 11, average junior line holder can get 12 or 13, 14 if he's lucky. I can get 15 to 17 rather easily, I bid 20%.

Ha! Ha! I bid around “20%” in ATL, if I was in ORD I’d be “7%!” LOL! It’s just an interesting way to state your seniority.


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)
9. The process itself is easy...jet bases (I'm not familiar with seniority on the Bro, someone else will have to answer)
PSP, SBA, SMF are super senior
COS, TUS, DEN, SLC are generally attainable within a year as a FO
MKE, ORD are very junior, expect one of these out of training
SFO, LAX are reserve only... so only ABOUT 8 pilots total at each
ATL was fairly junior but it's shrinking so hard to know, probably in the same category as COS/DEN and so on

The future of ATL is still unclear but to date we have yet to grow or shrink in size. Yes, our total flying has decreased, E9, but we still have more flying than our 16 crew’s can staff with SLC based crews picking up the slack. Based upon our number of current departures in ATL we have enough flying for over 40 crews. (This info recently came from RG our chief pilot) At one point, in the height of last year, we had enough flying for almost 60 crews.

FWIW, my opinion, based upon our current flying and E9’s contracts I feel that ATL will be around for many more years but only at its current size.

Scooter2525 12-30-2007 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)

5. Junior capt on the jet was hired July 06 and he's based in Chicago... That may be misleading...we're very "fat" on captains in most bases now, so I suspect it'll continue to slow down. I would expect to be in the right seat for 3 years, and if you want bro capt figure 18-24 months.


10. you failed to ask where the flight attendants are hottest... geez... priorities man..


you know who the captain is by chance?

lol #10

reelbigchair 12-30-2007 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 289455)
Ha! Ha! I bid around “20%” in ATL, if I was in ORD I’d be “7%!” LOL! It’s just an interesting way to state your seniority.
.

stated it that way because that's all that matters when talking schedules.


Originally Posted by Scooter2525 (Post 289505)
you know who the captain is by chance?

lol #10

not off the top of my head, why do you ask....

WILLTinbound 12-30-2007 04:20 PM

reelbigchair,

dude, arent you in HDN right now? get back on the slopes and off the forums.. you crazy bastard.. ;) haha..

reelbigchair 12-30-2007 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by WILLTinbound (Post 289718)
reelbigchair,

dude, arent you in HDN right now? get back on the slopes and off the forums.. you crazy bastard.. ;) haha..

well they do kick you off the slopes eventually..... who is this

TonyWilliams 12-30-2007 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by WILLTinbound (Post 289718)
reelbigchair,

dude, arent you in HDN right now? get back on the slopes and off the forums.. you crazy bastard.. ;) haha..


Well, he didn't make it in to HDN (Hayden / Steamboat Springs, Colorado) if he was on my flight today. Winds gusting to 35, 1/4sm SN.

Diverted to Grand Junction, CO, refueled, went home to SLC.

Very tiring, missed my leg to SFO, so I went home.

reelbigchair 12-30-2007 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 289914)
Well, he didn't make it in to HDN (Hayden / Steamboat Springs, Colorado) if he was on my flight today. Winds gusting to 35, 1/4sm SN.

Diverted to Grand Junction, CO, refueled, went home to SLC.

Very tiring, missed my leg to SFO, so I went home.

it was worse on the mtn.... most lifts got shut down due to wind, visibility was much lower than 1/4sm I couldn't see the chair in front of me on the lift...

rickair7777 12-31-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 289934)
it was worse on the mtn.... most lifts got shut down due to wind, visibility was much lower than 1/4sm I couldn't see the chair in front of me on the lift...

I did Solitude...took the bus up in a blizzard, and they closed the road behind us. Nice powder, but windy and snowing hard most of the day. We had the mountain to ourselves.

Looks like a little better Wx today. Maybe I'll get off the internet and go to snowbird.

meeko031 12-31-2007 10:29 AM

currently an fo here at eagle on the saab and im thinking about interviewing with skywest. what are my chances of not getting the brasilia(is skw phasing out the brasilia before they do the swa flying?) how about base for new hires? thanks....

rickair7777 12-31-2007 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 290191)
currently an fo here at eagle on the saab and im thinking about interviewing with skywest. what are my chances of not getting the brasilia(is skw phasing out the brasilia before they do the swa flying?) how about base for new hires? thanks....

With 121 experience you have very high odds of getting the CRJ...probably 95%.

JetJock16 12-31-2007 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 290191)
currently an fo here at eagle on the saab and im thinking about interviewing with skywest. what are my chances of not getting the brasilia(is skw phasing out the brasilia before they do the swa flying?) how about base for new hires? thanks....

Only 19 of our 62 EMB's are coming off line and they are being replaced by 22 RJ's; the schedule for those 19 EMB calls for a rather slow removal (after the first 4) so expect no real change in our hiring and staffing procedures. That leaves 43 on line and I’ve not seen nor heard any talks about additional removals. Yes we can’t keep them for ever but I don’t see them fully coming off line until we have a replacement and a codeshare to support the implementation.

As for getting the EMB, with your experience on the Saab I'd bet you have a 95+% chance of getting the CRJ. Although I recommend taking the first class that comes along, this could end up placing you ahead of many other pilots. Plus, on the Bro your seniority will increase much faster due to the fact that FO's jump to the RJ after 1 year. If you take the RJ, you constantly see ex-Bro pilot’s show up in front of you (knocking you out of a line if you’re on the bubble) on your domicile list until you reach the 1+ yr mark. I’m not trying to talk you into the EMB, just giving you food for thought when it comes to waiting for a later class. Take the seniority; by now you should know just how much it matters. When I first started on the EMB in KFAT I was around 40th in domicile and when I transitioned to the RJ 9 months later I was 3rd. A friend of mine went from 56th to 12th in less than 6 months in KFAT.

Best of luck & Happy New Year!

meeko031 01-02-2008 10:53 PM

rickair & jetjock,

I submitted an application on the skywest website almost a week ago, how long does it usually take for a reply? Maybe hr is just backed up!!! I'll wait another week... :cool:

JetJock16 01-03-2008 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 291744)
rickair & jetjock,

I submitted an application on the skywest website almost a week ago, how long does it usually take for a reply? Maybe hr is just backed up!!! I'll wait another week... :cool:

It can take some time if you just go the online route; they are pretty busy with all of their recruitment events. If you can, the most effective way to get an immediate interview is to attend one of the interviews. Below is a link to our recruitment page.

http://www.skywest.com/careers/pilot/groupinterview.php

If you can't make it to one of the events and you don't get a call within the next week then drop me a line and I'll help you out.

Best of luck!

flyfresno 01-03-2008 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by reelbigchair (Post 288804)
9. The process itself is easy...jet bases (I'm not familiar with seniority on the Bro, someone else will have to answer)
PSP, SBA, SMF are super senior
COS, TUS, DEN, SLC are generally attainable within a year as a FO
MKE, ORD are very junior, expect one of these out of training
SFO, LAX are reserve only... so only ABOUT 8 pilots total at each
ATL was fairly junior but it's shrinking so hard to know, probably in the same category as COS/DEN and so on.

Dude, how could you leave out the greatest domicile in the SkyWest system???!!!

rickair7777 01-03-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by meeko031 (Post 291744)
rickair & jetjock,

I submitted an application on the skywest website almost a week ago, how long does it usually take for a reply? Maybe hr is just backed up!!! I'll wait another week... :cool:


Back in the day, it could take a year or two. I assume they are just out for the holidays, but the response time can be variable...sometimes same day, sometimes months. If you're 121 you will probably get called more quickly than otherwise. The best thing is to have someone walk your resume in or call/email the recruiter on your behalf...that usually get's immediate results.

jelloy683 01-03-2008 10:26 AM

Question...

I'm going to be applying to Skywest in the near future, where do you see me being placed. I have no previous 121 experience, just CFI'ing, but I live in Chicago. Will they give me ORD if I make the point that I live in Chicago?

fatmike69 01-03-2008 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by jelloy683 (Post 291963)
Question...

Will they give me ORD if I make the point that I live in Chicago?


Nope. They will put you where they need you. Although you probably will get to bid on a base if there are vacancies in more than 1 location. Just hope that your last 4 of your SSN start with a low number ;)

jelloy683 01-03-2008 10:44 AM

I thought ORD was the most junior base? When do you find out your base assignment? Would you be able to transfer bases after a certain amount of time?

reelbigchair 01-03-2008 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by jelloy683 (Post 291981)
I thought ORD was the most junior base? When do you find out your base assignment? Would you be able to transfer bases after a certain amount of time?


you'll get it without much trouble, don't worry about it


Originally Posted by flyfresno (Post 291891)
Dude, how could you leave out the greatest domicile in the SkyWest system???!!!

sorry brian!!

ANPBird 01-03-2008 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by fatmike69 (Post 291972)
Nope. They will put you where they need you. Although you probably will get to bid on a base if there are vacancies in more than 1 location. Just hope that your last 4 of your SSN start with a low number ;)

Mike is right on, you will be put where they need you! Be prepared for the possibility of the EMB, then I will start seeing you on the ORD-LAX flights. We had a mix of CFI's and others that had turbine experence in our ground school! Its where they need you despite where you live or your backround. (Execpt if your from another 121 carrier!)

waflyboy 01-03-2008 01:15 PM

I was hired in Sept and there are guys in my class that were awarded DEN and COS for Jan.

ORD is very junior. If you bid it, it's yours.

rickair7777 01-03-2008 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by jelloy683 (Post 291981)
I thought ORD was the most junior base? When do you find out your base assignment? Would you be able to transfer bases after a certain amount of time?

ORD is a jet base only, so if you are hired into the EMB (likely since you're a CFI), you will not go there. You can do a year in the EMB and then transfer to the CRJ in ORD, at which time you would have good seniority.


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