FCC License
 

Hey Pilots:

I was wondering if someone could help me with a little something. I am hoping to begin applying to the regionals in the very near future, and I am currently working to check each little task off of the requirements list. One task I am struggling with is the FCC License. I have perused this very disorienting government website in search of this license. Some airlines refer to it as the FCC RadioTelephone Operator Permit, or FCC License, or FCC Radio License, etc. The bottom line is, I am not sure which form or application is required to be sent in. If anyone who has conquered this experience can help to guide me, I would appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Jason Powell

Go here:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/rp.html

You need a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit.
No test required for this one since you have your pilot certificate. Fill out and send in forms 605 and 159 with the fee and in a few weeks it will come in the mail to you.

There's actually a way to do it all online too, without using a paper application. First, you need to register with the FCC and get an FCC Registration Number (FRN), that can be done here:
https://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/coresWeb/publicHome.do

Then, u can log into the Universal Licensing System using your FRN here:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/

Once you do that, simply click on the "apply for a new license" link and follow the directions. The license code you are applying for is RR - Restricted Operator. You pay the fee online using a credit card and you'll get it in the mail within a few weeks.

Even saves you some $ since you don't have to buy a stamp now! Thanks for pointing out the online option.

I got my original in 1989. I did a search by name and it showed nothing for me so I am glad I checked. Thanks for the info Alex; good stuff!

Respectfully,

JayDub

Thanks a ton guys! That is very helpful!

CJ

I too could not find a record of mine from 1988, so after misplacing my old one (left it in a copier), I just went ahead and got a new one

No one mentioned it, but the fee for the FCC RR permit is 55$. The permit should arrive in about a business week if you use the online app and payment. If it has been a lot longer than that, I suggest you call the FCC at 800.225.5322 and select prompt #2 to talk to a FCC rep, then have them make sure your app and payment went through correctly.

In my case, the app (form 605) went through fine, but the payment did not for some reason. After figuring out what the problem was the second try went just fine.

Good luck

Thanks again guys. I have completed the online app and made my donation, so I should be all set within the next week or so. Thanks again to all of you who contributed. It is so comforting to know that I can just come online, throw out a thread, and get solid, productive advice and guidance.

Much Obliged to All WHo Have Posted,
CitationJason

just reviving this thread

this is very useful and painless for those who need it

FYI, the permit is now $60 online

The process is uber-painless and took all of 5 minutes. Just another fee to keep flying airplanes.

Has anyone had it take longer than 3 weeks to get it? I called the FCC yesterday and they said even though it was mailed out on 8-21 they won't do anything like send a new one til it has been a month.

Did you do it online?

It took me less than almost exactly a week. I just got mine today as a matter of fact.:)

Yeah, I did it online. It still hasn't come and it's now been several months. I actually forgot that I didn't have it til I saw this brought back up. I guess I should call or something, shouldn't I?

I guess so blondie...;)

Haha, I should have seen that one coming. :p

Radio Amateurs
 

Anyone know if hams get a pass on requiring a this license? Seems a wee bit silly to carry around this license for which I didn't have to answer question one.

Step 1 – Go to www.fcc.gov website and on the left hand side, in the yellow box area, click on the Forms link
Step 2 – Scroll down the page ¾ of the way and you will see
(Quick-Form Application for Authorization in the Ship, Aircraft, Amateur, Restricted and Commercial Operator, and General Mobile Radio Services) form 605. Click on Electronic Filing link.
Step 3 – On the next page you will click on the second link, being Online Filing
Step 4 – The following page ask for you FRN and pin. If you have one enter it here, if not click on the link Need and FRN? Register with the FCC.
Step 5 – Highlight the Register now circle and then click continue
Step 6 – You will be registering as an individual and check the appropriate response to the address with in the U.S. question.
Step 7 – Enter your appropriate information in the following page
Step 8 – The next page your FRN number will be displayed. Write this down or print for future reference. Click the back button four times or go to the FCC home page and using steps 1 through 3 to return to the page that ask for your FRN number. Enter your number here along with your password you submitted in the previous steps.
Step 9 – The following page will have an option to Apply for a new license. Click here.
Step 10 – This will take you to a page on which you must select the radio service for which you will be applying. Scroll down the list until you reach ( RR-Recruited Operator ). Continue
Step 11 – On the Applicant Questions page leave everything as is. It should say Regular on type and No you’re not exempt from application fees or license fees. Continue
Step 12 – Address located outside the U.S. check appropriate field. Continue.
Step 13 – Fill out your information for you license on this page. Continue
Step 14 – Click that you are eligible for employment in the U.S. Continue
Step 15 – Check that all your information is accurate and then continue.
Step 16 – Agree to all the above statements then Continue.
Step 17 – Give your electronic signature by filling in the boxes. Continue
Step 18 – Print your application and continue to Form 159
Step 19 – Fill in your FRN number and password and Continue
Step 20 – On form 159 you can either pay credit card or if you select to view form 159 you can mail in a payment. Select your choice and proceed.
Step 21 – The following page you will be able to print form 159 after your credit card has been approved.
This is the completion of you FCC Radio Telephone Operators Permit Application. You should receive you license in the mail with in 2 to 3 weeks.

I got mine within less than a week.

lol that musta took some time and effort to type up all that

It's from an old post. I was getting my FCC License and having some issues. So was another guy. We joined our process together to make that list. I just repost it when anyone asks about FCC license so that it's easier to search for.

I think they do, but I got the restricted radio permit too for good measure. They may not be familiar with that little tidbit in the interview process, and you definitely don't want to create more work for the interview team. Just easier for them to say no.

Thanks for that step by step checklist guys...definitely made it nice and easy

Step by step...that saved me...

and what do ya know, it came in the mail for me today (e-filed last week)

Roger that.

Moot now anyway. I got the license and a change of address on the ham ticket all within the space of a few days. Unbelievable. This ain't my father's FCC!

Thanks! That's great info.

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Thanks for the info guys; still very helpful. It's ironic that the organization responsible for COMMUNICATION makes a process that requires beta to understand!

no one has asked the fundamental question: why is the FCC entitled to $55 in the first place? If all the agency does is send a piece of paper (circa 1989) that they admittedly do not record, then what service that justifies the power to tax is rendered? are we a nation of sheep?

Yes; fat, lazy sheep. In the next hundred years, we'll be fat, lazy sheep working for folks who aren't fat or lazy........ might have to learn a new language, too.

Thanks for your effort ToiletDuck.

Surprisingly, no one has asked the REAL fundamental question: Why is anyone getting ready to apply at a regional?

Because this thread was started in 2006. Holy thread ressurection Batman!

HAHA! I didn't even notice that! Next thing you know, I'll be reading PanAm and Braniff threads!

In Canada there's a written test and an oral to recieve a restricted operator's licence.

I wouldn't mind a written test, but oral...that's asking a bit much, don't ya think?

Do you impersonate your favorite radio personality?

I just read this thread again and was surprised that I had commented. The first thing to go is the memory - if I recall. BTW - I was pleased with my response - at least fundamentally.

I've got mine in less than a week,all completed via online.