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exwaterski 01-03-2008 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Tonne (Post 291961)
Spoken like someone who has never flown corporate or charter before….in a jet. I assume you flew for TSA?? Because I can guarantee you, that flying for TSA or any other airline is NOTHING like flying corporate or charter….. as an airline pilot you don’t even know the meaning of “Po Dunk”

Okay that does it whip 'em out and let's measure! :rolleyes:

Tonne 01-03-2008 10:57 AM

Crazy how you assume I am a male..... :rolleyes:

I actually didn't completely get your point of the other post .... but in my experience from flying charter for 3 years and airline for 3 years ..... each have different difficulties .... and both deserve a significant amount of money .... but the charter flying was by far more demanding of my actual piloting skills

exwaterski 01-03-2008 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Tonne (Post 291987)
Crazy how you assume I am a male..... :rolleyes:

I actually didn't completely get your point of the other post .... but in my experience from flying charter for 3 years and airline for 3 years ..... each have different difficulties .... and both deserve a significant amount of money .... but the charter flying was by far more demanding of my actual piloting skills

Crazy how you assume the only flying I've ever done is airline. ;)

My post was simply in response to the slam that all we fly are coupled ILS approaches in Class B airspace. Anyone who makes a statement like that is simply ignorant. I wasn't trying to start a debate on airline vs. charter and which is more difficult.

ERJ Driver 01-03-2008 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 291796)
blame the union all you want, but lets face it the Union isnt making guys apply and take the job for 19k a year.................

Guess who makes up the "union" people like you and I, so the more we sit back and do nothing, the more we are allowing ourselves to be taken advantage of.........

Well, I volunteer and participate in ALPA... but I have only been around a couple of years. My generation of newhires and those after me are inheriting the momentum built up over decades, and for some reason the folks in power just won't respond to the rapidly changing environment. Why why why? It seems we get a small foothold and SLIP its gone again. And, I don't think that the fact that there are newhires is the problem. I keep bringing it up, but look at the longshoremen. They get paid bank and there are plenty of folks who would like to do their jobs... ***?

ERJ Driver 01-03-2008 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 291859)
But at least you arent a garbage man:D, I hear sewer inspectors make quite a bit too, and to tell you the truth I cant remember the last time that flying was hard

I take out the trash, help the FA clean up in the back, and order LAV when it's stinky... I AM a garbage man and a sewage inspector. I want my 65K dagnabbit.

POPA 01-03-2008 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Tonne (Post 291961)
as an airline pilot you don’t even know the meaning of “Po Dunk”

KMFE
KHRL
KBRO
KUNV
Did you need me to keep going?

SharkAir 01-03-2008 04:51 PM

Don't forget KXNA.

ExperimentalAB 01-03-2008 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by exwaterski (Post 291998)
My post was simply in response to the slam that all we fly are coupled ILS approaches in Class B airspace. Anyone who makes a statement like that is simply ignorant. I wasn't trying to start a debate on airline vs. charter and which is more difficult.

Unfortunately, that really is all we do...most of the time. Captain flipped-out again today that I wouldn't use the FD :rolleyes:

ERJ Driver 01-03-2008 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 292242)
Unfortunately, that really is all we do...most of the time. Captain flipped-out again today that I wouldn't use the FD :rolleyes:

You know you're gonna crash doing that don't you? I mean, planes fall out of the sky all the time on vis approaches when the FD gets turned off. Heck, we're skating on thin ice as it is without a HUD in these dang things.

subicpilot 01-03-2008 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 292242)
Unfortunately, that really is all we do...most of the time. Captain flipped-out again today that I wouldn't use the FD :rolleyes:

Food Dispenser?

Fart Detector?

Flight Diaper?

Free Doughnuts?

???


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