I complete understand the terminology, I was just spinning the phrases in order create a understanding of the type leverage we have.

Thesse statement should have been the clue:

"Faith" meaning mass-Kool-Aid drinking.

 

Let's name the airlines that have a good to great Mgmnt/labor group relationship: SWA, XJT & SKW. Hmmmmm? There might be a few others but 95+% of all carriers have poor relationships and extremely low moral.

Remember that even GoJet has "adequate, good, qualified employees." This statement has no merit seeing that every carrier must obtain at least this to operate. SKW (as I'm sure SWA & XJT do) understands that maintaining levels far beyond that of adequate or good results in outstanding performance which intern has a large indirect effect on the “Bottom Line;” and as we all know the “Bottom Line” is what Mgmnt and their shareholders care about.

We work hard for our airline and they reward us. Yes it could and needs to be more, but it always can be more.

 

Honest curiosity: in what way are the pilots making a sacrifice for the branded, Delta and charter ops?

 

Hmmmmmm? I'm "honestly curious" as well.

Did they take pay cuts as well as a decreased in QOL? They’re still on the same TA as COEX pilots, right? But the opening of new bases must be a sacrifice?

As I see it, it a company risk not a sacrifice! So what "sacrifices" have you made for the branded, DAL & Charter Ops?

 

Nevet - I know that you couldn't possibly believe that we're all so naive here at SKW thinking mgmt cares for nothing other than their Pilots?! That is ridiculous and short-sighted of you.

 

I understand now. My bad.

 

Look, my only point is that Skywest management does not deny that other unionized employee groups puts pressure on them to increase pay and benefits to attract employees. Skywest pilots are unable to participate on these pressures to help increase pay and benefits for themselves and the rest of the industry since they don't have any leverage and therefore no real good faith bargaining happens. I was just lamenting the fact that most pilots there don't agree with their own management on this. Thats all.

 

No pay cuts but the Branded and Delta operation was moved off of CCS/CMS. This means that we must now call crew scheduling to make all trip trades and view the reserve grid. We aren't able to advertise our trips as well. It also means we have to do manual payroll. All this means that we are on our cell phones longer because of the longer wait times and also sometimes see errors on our paychecks which takes time to fix.

We are all on the same contract and of course there is a group grievance on all of this. Management has acknowledged they have violated the contract in these regards and are now just negotiating how to make the pilots whole. The pilots have been very patient with the company on the remedy and have lived with it since April although some pilots have either gone back to their old base or decided not to come out to the new bases until all if this is settled.

So, yes, there are sacrifices being made by those pilots everyday especially for those of us who were used to CCC/CMS.

 

Nope, just 65% of them!

 

Nevets, I think we're on the same page.

Best of luck in 08 and I've always pulled for you guys. XJT's one of the few quality carriers left and I'd hate to see them fade away, although I seriously doubt they will.