Midwest/Skyway
 

Hi all,

Was looking thru previous posts, didn't find much. On Midwest's website they list that they are hirining FO's in "Open Positions" and the regular Drivers Lic, Comm. Multi Lic, FCC Radio, etc. But there are no minimum times listed. Anyone know what kind of time Midwest/Skyway wants to get into the B1900?

According to APC and friends with ties to Skyway/Midwest Connect, the B1900s are to be retired first quarter of this year. Profile here on APC says the 1900s are gonna be gone by February and that they are hiring with less than 400TT/25ME.

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...al/skyway.html

MKE is SkyWest's most junior base. Have you looked at them?

They are hiring into the 328 right now and trying to avoid any more training into the 1900 (although as of now the 1900s are on property pretty much indefinitely since Big Sky went belly up before they were awarded the EAS flying).

Wow, I was once advised never to chase an airplane...but flying the 328Jet is my DREAMJOB. But No, I guess I haven't looked at Skywest...I wouldn't mind flying for them. So I see "TGP Captial" nopw owns Midwest Air group, does this mean that at least, for now, no one is planning to buy them?

TPG is in the process of buying Midwest (with 47% of the backing coming from NWA).

I mean absolutely no disrespect to the Skyway guys...though flying a 328 DoJet might possibly be your dream job, flying it for Skyway certainly would not be...

What is the big announcement that skyway has planned according to flight info?

Hi!

I just flew on them and they are way short of FAs. Probably the same for pilots.

cliff
YYZ
PS-The Dornier 328 jet is A LOT more comfortable than the 50-seat CRJs or ERJs.

Since when is FlightInfo the end-all be-all information broker for the airline industry? Newsflash: just because it was on a forum does NOT make it true.

I don't get it...why is flying the 328Jet your DREAMJOB!?!?:confused:

Its a fun airplane, alot better than any CRJ. The avionics beat the crj and ask any erj driver they dont have vnav, except the 170 and bigger they have the upgraded primus and they biggest change is autothrottles. besides that its a rocket with wings, we might go slow in cruise but last time i checked i get paid by the hour so i dont really care. i'm not saying this is want i want to fly for life but at a regional i could do worse....i did spend a year on the beach.

The Beech is fairly well staffed, as well as the 328 CAs. The FAs THINK they are understaffed, but they had a little attrition over the past couple months and they are running classes now to bring them back up. They still average something like 16-17 days off. FOs on the jet are pretty well staffed, I think about 15 below where they want to be.

What is the problem with Skyway?

So what does that mean? Once TGP buys Midwest with NWAs help does it all go away? Because on MidWest's website they seem pretty lovey-dovey about "we want to keep the unique service of Midwest." But does this mean NWA takes/sells all of Midwest's assets and gets thier routes?

Let everyone what's so great about Skyway? Seriously, I hold them in higher respect (mcuh higher) than GoJet but what's beyond the numbers? Tell us? No offense and I'm not picking a fight, just looking for information not an opinion.

The DoJet is 32 seats, comparable seats/size to the Saab 340...and Skyway's pay on the 328 exceeds Eagle, Mesaba (and Colgan's) pay rates on that equipment. Skyway's contract has a payscale as well for 50 seat aircraft (from the numerous times they had orders for ERJs) and the pay scales are on average with other 50 seat carriers. The 1900 FO pay scale is pretty bad, but CA wise its on par with other 1900 operators.

TPG will have the option of selling its stake in the company after 5 years...so NWA at that time could pick up the remaining stake in YX. While TPG holds YX, NWA has a "passive" interest, meaning they are supposed to not have any voting control in the company.

XJT, RAH and AE's EMB-135 CA pay tops Skyway's by almost $10/hr for almost every year. Not to mention there are quite a few Dash operaters that get paid more as well and yes your FO pay is well below average.

Small company, friendly people, MKE base (for people who live there), cheap COL, Dojet is different than the typical RJ, oh and the pilots aren't ever snotty about how great their company is. It's not always about the money for most people.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's good and people wonder why there are so many lifers at SKW.

jetjock i'm not trying to start a fight but everyone has there reasons for going where they do. 1. lack of knowledge (people going to gojets, etc.) 2. because thats the first they were offered 3. its where they live (thats why i took skyway there was no skywest) yes we do have lower pay right now but it isnt horrible, plus its also 4 years old, where most contracts are younger, or have had pay raises recently

This is what I was looking for. It seems like there are so many bashers of SKW over at Skyway but in the end we'll all the same.

no not bashers, some of us are still alittle sore about the entire thing. not that its skywests fault its our company and everyday we get to see your jets flying the routes we used to. so its kinda like being kicked after we're already down

Really, there isn't. There is still lingering animousity of seeing 50 seaters on the MKE ramp, but it isn't really directed at SKYW.

Dash-8's are bigger than the 328, so all in all I don't think our rates on the 328 at least are all that bad...on a pretty old contract that is up in 7 months.

Ya lost me on that one. I want more money too, my wife and I don't have a lot of it, but I don't look down on people who make a choice to earn less and live where they want / do what they want. What's wrong with being a lifer at SkyWest? If you're gonna be a lifer anywhere it would seem that's one of, if not the place to do it. Tons of bases, good pay, good management relations, good history of growth, etc.

Yes, more people need to realize that's just the way regionals operate. We don't take flying that isn't being given and pilots don’t like putting other pilots out of a job. We respect and wish the best for each other regardless of the bickering that can take place.

Absolutely nothing! A life at SKW will top out around $115-$130K/yr unless you are willing to become a check airmen or a sim instructor, then $150K+ isn’t that hard to obtain. We have good to great QOL and a great relationship with each of our labor groups and Mgmnt. I'm just saying that there are a lot of people constantly bash pilots for not choosing to move to the majors. They think that regional lifers are low quality pilots and people. Those who have this kind of mentality make me sick and so should it you. Bottom line, only we can choose what's right for our lives and only we have to pay the price for our choices.

OK I gotcha, I mis-interpreted your post and thought you were being sarcastic. I think we are saying the same thing.

I know the feeling..... Try having to request J/S commuting to your hometown.

JetJock,

I also dont think its bad to be a lifer at a regional, especially if you are making around 150k. If you really think about it, it would be hard to make much higher then that at majors, especially with the upgrades getting longer and the airlines are not making as much as they use to (not counting SWA, FDX, UPS)

I don't think that we have many bashers of Skywest here at Skyway. But, sad to say we do have some. I think we as pilots should be upset with our own company not another pilot group. My favorite is that some (Skyway guys) call Skywest guys SCABS, how can this be, what line did they cross. Nevertheless, I am always nice to u guys here at MKE, and other pilots. But, there are some SKywest guys here at MKE that are not that nice to us. I say hello, and they just look. NOT COOL. SO be nice to others, because the toe you step on today, might be connected to the ass you will kiss tom....