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Squawk8800 01-15-2008 05:05 PM

RJet QOL
 
I know quality of life varies from person to person, but generally speaking how do you guys working for RJet like working there? How much time are new hires spending on reserve? Also, when do you have to sign the 2 yr training agreement? I would assume you would sign on the first day of class. Thanks in advance!

ExperimentalAB 01-15-2008 05:19 PM

Are you referring to RAH (Republic)?

Squawk8800 01-15-2008 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 300526)
Are you referring to RAH (Republic)?

.......yup

KiloAlpha 01-15-2008 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 300526)
Are you referring to RAH (Republic)?

The company website is www.rjet.com, hence the rjet reference.

ExperimentalAB 01-15-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 300568)
The company website is www.rjet.com, hence the rjet reference.

LoL yeah I knew that...I had one heckuva time looking for RAH's website as a CFI ;)

ERJ135 01-15-2008 06:56 PM

question for RAH guys
 
Hey guys, just curious. Say your on the E170. When you bid your lines are you locked into flying for US Air, or SA, or F9 express for the month. Basically can one trip have you flying on multiple certificates. You know, little Usair express on day one, then some shuttle america flying with some F9flying mixed. Always interested how that worked.

Pilotpip 01-15-2008 06:59 PM

No. You are hired based on the certificate. Shuttle and Republic have some different procedures and you can not jump back and forth between them. You're either on shuttle, or republic.

The only way you can change certificates is if you are going for an increase in pay. IE: FO at republic and you can hold captain at shuttle, you can upgrade to shuttle. However, you can not do that in the right seat because the payscale is the same for all types.

SharkyBN584 01-15-2008 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ135 (Post 300640)
Hey guys, just curious. Say your on the E170. When you bid your lines are you locked into flying for US Air, or SA, or F9 express for the month. Basically can one trip have you flying on multiple certificates. You know, little Usair express on day one, then some shuttle america flying with some F9flying mixed. Always interested how that worked.

The codeshare you fly is based on the trips in that base. For example, Republic guys based in DEN only fly F9 trips because that's all that they build lines there for. Guys for Shuttle that are based in CMH could fly a trip for UAL then start another trip for DAL the next day. Each pairing is codeshare specific (i.e. you only fly for one codeshare per pairing) but with multiple pairings being used to create your monthly schedule, you could end up flying for multiple codeshares. My record for one month was 4 (AA, DAL, US, and UAL) on the 145.

To the original poster - I have been pretty happy here despite the whole commuting thing. If I had to pick any one thing I dislike about my job, that would be it. The money has been good enough for my single self to develop a savings and live comfortably (despite the fact that it was on 1st and now 2nd year FO pay), I haven't had too many run-ins with scheduling, and I've gotten along with everyone I've flown with with one single exception. Some people get here and love it...others get here and hate it. I guess it all depends on your personal situation. However, even the people that do complain about working here still like their job.

iflyjets4food 01-16-2008 05:04 AM

Life here at RAH is very different if you live in base. I live in CMH, and my QOL is awesome. I do mostly out-and-back pairings. I've done one overnight in each of the past two months. I'm home with the wife a lot, which is good for me. The reason things are a lot different here for commuters is because lots of our bases are outstations (CMH, GSO, IND, BUF to name some) which often times have pairings that begin at 6am and end at 10pm. These types are not friendly with commuting. Thus you spend extra days away, waiting for a commute home. If you end up on the S5 or RW certificates, you have more commutable options in PHL, DCA, ATL, ORD. The CHQ certificate has a couple of hub bases in STL, CVG, and LGA, but the trips out of CVG are terrible. Nobody gets more than 12-13 days off. STL has the most productive trips in the system. Anyway, enough of my rambling. I'm happy here, and my QOL is great.

130flyer 01-16-2008 06:05 AM

iflyjets4food,
Which certificate are you? I live in CMH also and am looking at Republic for that reason.

DANCRJ 01-16-2008 06:07 AM

Do you know your base and equipment before beginning class? I would be interested in Mercury in ATL. I'm with 9E but a side move is always a possibility, specially with the whole strike and me being in probation. Also I think things are really going to start slowing down this year and the next one, and there's a chance I get stuck in the right seat much longer than I would like, so I figure if I'm going to be stuck in the right seat, I better be in a decent company. I propably would kill myself if I'm going to be stuck in the right seat in 9E for years.....

btwissel 01-16-2008 07:59 AM

you know the certificate the moment they call you to offer the job. base is not usually assigned until middle of sim or so.

getting any of the bases shouldn't take more than a few months. about half of my class wanted ATL, and after we came online in sept. most had it by Dec. at the latest.

i've been here 6 months now, and love it. i now live in domicile, and even though i have early shows & late returns, it's far & away better than the last place. the super senior captains here actually like coming to work, as opposed to TSA, and i'm getting to enjoy the 15+ days off i get a month.

cbire880 01-16-2008 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by 130flyer (Post 300857)
iflyjets4food,
Which certificate are you? I live in CMH also and am looking at Republic for that reason.

CHQ and S5 currently have CMH bases. RW will open CMH in a month or two. You could go to any certificate and live in base. iflyjets4food is CHQ.

ToiletDuck 01-16-2008 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 300643)
The only way you can change certificates is if you are going for an increase in pay. IE: FO at republic and you can hold captain at shuttle, you can upgrade to shuttle. However, you can not do that in the right seat because the payscale is the same for all types.

Not true your seatlock is up in 2yrs and if an FO position is available then you have the right to bid for it. Right now that doesn't make much sense with upgrades the way they are but should things stall people could do it to move into base etc.

130flyer 01-16-2008 09:24 AM

Can you bid for anything your seniority will allow? Example, if you bid a base change at 2 years and you are eligible for upgrade when a captain slot opens, does one override the other or can you bid on everything at once. Do you only get so many bids?

Randolph 01-16-2008 09:29 AM

How does the seatlock work? Does it pertain to your aircraft and certificate? Or just as an FO? I'm confused...

ToiletDuck 01-16-2008 09:55 AM

When the company hires you they have to pay for your training. Because of the cost of training, and a few other factors, they require you to stay in your current aircraft for 2yrs as an FO, unless upgrading, that way they can get their money's worth. Has nothing to do with certificates. If they pay to train me in the 145 then I'm stuck as an FO in the 145 until upgrade or until my seatlock is up, whichever comes first.

Randolph 01-16-2008 10:02 AM

Gotcha. Thanks for the reply

SharkyBN584 01-16-2008 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 301018)
Not true your seatlock is up in 2yrs and if an FO position is available then you have the right to bid for it. Right now that doesn't make much sense with upgrades the way they are but should things stall people could do it to move into base etc.

An FO for CHQ cannot become an FO at RW or S5. As an FO, you ARE seatlocked until you upgrade. Whatever certificate and airplane you get hired on will be the one you work on until you upgrade. The two year thing only applies to CA's (i.e. a 145 CA must stay that way for 2 years before moving up to the 170).

iflyjets4food 01-16-2008 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 301018)
Not true your seatlock is up in 2yrs and if an FO position is available then you have the right to bid for it. Right now that doesn't make much sense with upgrades the way they are but should things stall people could do it to move into base etc.

I'm gonna throw the B.S. flag on this one. According to our contract, right now you must move to a seat of higher pay.

Originally Posted by RAH CBA
The Company is not required to award a vacancy to a pilot if
the vacancy requires initial, upgrade or transition training
unless the awarded vacancy has a higher rate of pay.

The only way around this right now is for the company to do what is not required(see above), or for the fleet you are on to be disposed of, allowing you to bid via displacement.

ToiletDuck 01-16-2008 11:53 AM

Well then I stand corrected and accept defeat. I specifically asked this during the interview, before upgrades were where they are now and I was expecting to be here longer, and was assured that if the 145 didn't go to Houston that once my seat lock was up I would be able to then bid for a position in which ever aircraft would be based there if a position was available. I told this by Ron Graff and Linda Bannister while in the coffin size interview room. I just took it to heart.

After reading over it I have to say the CBA doesn't prohibit moving right seat to right seat. It just says the company doesn't have to do it. So saying that the only way you can move is you must move to higher pay might not hold. I guess it's just the company's decision. Like I said Ron Graff and Linda seem to think otherwise (as well as whoever the hell it was teaching indoc at the time).

ScaryKite 01-16-2008 12:11 PM

for the millionth time! A 145 FO can not bid for 170 FO period! Likewise a 170 FO can not bid 145 FO! The only way you can change equipment regardless of FO or Capt. is if its for an increase in pay....hence a 170 captain can not bid 145 capt! And yes there is a two year seat lock for captains! Cha-ching for the company!

RTFC!!!! J/K ;)

yeah if your down for CMH! This is the place to be! All three Certificates have a CMH base! Go LSU!

ScaryKite 01-16-2008 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 301168)
Well then I stand corrected and accept defeat. I specifically asked this during the interview, before upgrades were where they are now and I was expecting to be here longer, and was assured that if the 145 didn't go to Houston that once my seat lock was up I would be able to then bid for a position in which ever aircraft would be based there if a position was available. I told this by Ron Graff and Linda Bannister while in the coffin size interview room. I just took it to heart.

After reading over it I have to say the CBA doesn't prohibit moving right seat to right seat. It just says the company doesn't have to do it. So saying that the only way you can move is you must move to higher pay might not hold. I guess it's just the company's decision. Like I said Ron Graff and Linda seem to think otherwise (as well as whoever the hell it was teaching indoc at the time).


they will tell you anything in the interview! Ask them if we're going to be flying 74s for Great Lakes and they would concur! And i guess the only way you could transfer right seat to right seat would be a displacement if and only if all of your current type were in the desert! But after what was learned here in 2001 with the SAABS, there would be "furloughs" insert the word fired out of seniority before they ever trained an FO twice on different equipment!

ToiletDuck 01-16-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 301182)
for the millionth time!

I already admitted defeat on that one *** else you want from me!?!:D

iflyjets4food 01-16-2008 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 301182)
RTFC!!!! J/K ;)

Go LSU!

Harth? Nah, he's a captain.

SharkyBN584 01-16-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 301182)
RTFC!!!! J/K ;)

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Originally Posted by iflyjets4food (Post 301236)
Harth? Nah, he's a captain.

I thought the same thing for a second...

ScaryKite 01-16-2008 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 301213)
I already admitted defeat on that one *** else you want from me!?!:D


i wasnt directing that one to you man! just the confusion in general! i know i have read the details on our menage-a-certificate CF here at RAH on APC forums till im blue in the face, and people still dont understand it! Its not that complicated people!!!!:D

cheers
SK

ScaryKite 01-16-2008 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 301281)
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



I thought the same thing for a second...


yeah i have been seeing some controversy on republicpilots.org about people using RTFC a little too much! So I thought I'd throw it in for some color! I am not Harth!!!!:eek:

SK

SharkyBN584 01-16-2008 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by ScaryKite (Post 301286)
yeah i have been seeing some controversy on republicpilots.org about people using RTFC a little too much! So I thought I'd throw it in for some color! I am not Harth!!!!:eek:

SK

RTFC is good advice though if you're 250XXX or above. The 251's get some leeway...because, well, they're 251's....

POPA 01-16-2008 09:06 PM

My buddy SK might not be Captain Harth, but I would sure love to be a JSer on a flight with the two of them up front!

Speedbird172 01-20-2008 07:00 AM

How long is reserve running in PHL for you RAH guys these days? Is it an easy base to get right off the bat?

ScaryKite 01-20-2008 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by POPA (Post 301619)
My buddy SK might not be Captain Harth, but I would sure love to be a JSer on a flight with the two of them up front!


i dont know who this Captain Harth is!?!?!?!

cbire880 01-20-2008 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Speedbird172 (Post 303929)
How long is reserve running in PHL for you RAH guys these days? Is it an easy base to get right off the bat?

Well it was really short, but 4 guys ended up back on reserve this month due to some unknown crappiness in the schedules. We gained 100 hours of credit and lost 4 lines for FOs in PHL. Don't know what is going on with PHL right now.


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