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Originally Posted by WILLTinbound (Post 303342)

you can't be serious.. wasnt the cost of inflation last year somewhere in neighborhood of 6%? you really think that you can achieve a COLA like that from ANY airline? the highest Ive seen at the regional level is 1.5% at Eagle, I think.. now, I'm not here to argue whether or not we deserve that or not, b/c I'm sure we'd all agree on that issue.. and I'm sure I'll be made fun of for accepting something lower than I think Im worth, but as for right now, I'll be voting yes when the chance comes.. in my opinion, there were too many people expecting too many things from this pay proposal.. and a COLA that matches inflation is just one of many unrealistic expectations

My response would be raise your expectations. Why should I CHOOSE to vote yet to something that decreases my buying power year after year. Sure i give up .32% but the message this sends to management and other airlines management that are currently in negotiations would be better in the long run. Plus it gives us a chance to see if management will come back to negotiate or just raise 1st year pay. Think of how it would effect morale if they didn't come back. Sounds less costly to come back and negotiate.

Since inflation was actually 6% last year, even more a reason to get more than 1%. It's not really even 1% because they are just moving that from the block hour override increases that the 700 guys are getting.

Don't you think we ought to get more than ASA?

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Originally Posted by duvie (Post 303400)

Second, JetJock, you overreact to almost every post about SKW. Nevets has been nothing but calm and reasonable, but you continue to put way too many exclamation points in your posts

I hope other airline pilots understand that the people on this board are not neccesarily an acurate cross section of SKW employees. There are many of us who do understand the concept of bettering the industry and wish to improve upon the shortcomings of SKW.

Does a simple "exclamation point" or two..............or three offend you? LOL! :eek:

And by your second statement I gather that you have long term memory issues. I mean, no offense, but to think that we don’t “understand the concept of bettering the industry and wish to improve upon the shortcomings of SKW” is flat out ridiculous. In order for you to actually think this, you would have to have trouble not remembering past the sentence you’re currently reading. :confused:

Please understand that I'm in agreement with you and I've chosen to vote NO for the pay proposal but I feel I need to address your above statement.

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 303851)

............... even more a reason to get more than 1%. It's not really even 1% because they are just moving that from the block hour override increases that the 700 guys are getting.

This statement is actually incorrect seeing that a 1% yearly increase on CR2 rates is more than the 1% BHO increase. I block around 80-85 hours per month, all on the CR9, and I credit around 120+ per month. This means that my 1% BHO increases is only on my block (80-85 hrs) with 40 or so hours paid at straight CR2 rates. Where as with the CR2 rate increasing I’ll get the 1% increase on all of my credit plus a 5% BHO on my flight time. (I want my 5% increase on all of my CR9 line credit values)

Don't get my wrong, I do not agree with the 1% and feel we deserve much more, I was just explaining the error in your statement.

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 303851)

Don't you think we ought to get more than ASA?

Simple, YES!