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Joeshmoe 02-06-2008 11:33 AM

Yeah Bernards is private. It was the school used in the movie The Wood.
I ended up later in life in Santa Monica. I know all of the bars there like the back of my hand. Enjoy.

Tuckster 02-06-2008 12:25 PM

Back to Mesa
 
Why is it that alot of the Delta Connection guys (Freedom) are somewhat happy....I mean very few at a regional are truly happy but with all the Mesa bashing, I can't understand why the Freedom guys seem to be at least content. Are they treated differently from United Express or USAirways Express ??

Joeshmoe 02-06-2008 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Tuckster (Post 315316)
Why is it that alot of the Delta Connection guys (Freedom) are somewhat happy....I mean very few at a regional are truly happy but with all the Mesa bashing, I can't understand why the Freedom guys seem to be at least content. Are they treated differently from United Express or USAirways Express ??

I was Freedom and was not happy....

ImperialxRat 02-06-2008 12:44 PM

It seems to me that as long as we have BET (Black Entertainment Television), scholarships targeted specifically for minorities, and load of other affirmative action crap, that racism will never really be able to fade from us.

Could you imagine if a station starting airing all white TV shows, called WET (White Entertainment Television). Or if there were scholarships that you could only apply to if you were Caucasian.

Most qualified candidate should always be the choice. I wouldn't want a female doctor operating on me who ranked 5th in her class, simply because they had to fill a quota and hire a woman. Or any other race / gender / nationality.

I'm really tired so this may not be as coherent as it could be.

N6724G 02-06-2008 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 315336)
It seems to me that as long as we have BET (Black Entertainment Television), scholarships targeted specifically for minorities, and load of other affirmative action crap, that racism will never really be able to fade from us.

Could you imagine if a station starting airing all white TV shows, called WET (White Entertainment Television). Or if there were scholarships that you could only apply to if you were Caucasian.

Most qualified candidate should always be the choice. I wouldn't want a female doctor operating on me who ranked 5th in her class, simply because they had to fill a quota and hire a woman. Or any other race / gender / nationality.

I'm really tired so this may not be as coherent as it could be.

Thats a typical argument about the WET vs BET thing. ihear it all the time but there are some things you dont understand about that argument. I agree the name I dont like, but BET plays videos that MTV or VH1 NEVER Play. So, if I want to hear these particular artists, where would I go if there wasnt a BET?

Affirmative Action is needed because the plying field is not even. You have tolook at families histories. there are a lot of intelligent people inthe ghetto. But due to their situation which is no fault of their own (Its ancestrial) they are stuck in a situation wher ethey cannot succeed. So, scholorship are designed to help them if they make the grade. You hae to have waled inthe shoes to understand. But I understand why a lot of white males dont agree with affirmative action. But a lot of them really dont understand the issue. they just see the surface and outside. they really havet gottendeep into it.

mach946 02-06-2008 02:59 PM

Let us not forget what was it that caused affirmative action in the first place. It was the "CRAP" called racism that led to it being implemented.
It was meant to level the playing field. A playing field that some folks had a major head start on. Before the monoploy laws where passed there where major business tycoons such as the Rockefellers, JP Morgan, Ford, and other who had set the playing field to suit there needs financially, at the expense of what was good for America, and it's Citizens. They insured that competition was stiffled, and when that happens it's the Citizens who lose something. IM sure when the Anti monopoly laws where first being implemented the business tycoons had the same sentiment, and that is it's "CRAP" . I look forward to the day when laws anti monopolistic laws and affirmative action are no longer needed. Until then, this country will do what it does best. Continue to evolve into what it's destined to be, the best country in the world bar none!

bustinmins 02-06-2008 05:20 PM

All I have to say to JO is this:

KARMA IS A BIATCH

cbire880 02-06-2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by mach946 (Post 315449)
I look forward to the day when laws anti monopolistic laws and affirmative action are no longer needed. Until then, this country will do what it does best. Continue to evolve into what it's destined to be, the best country in the world bar none!

Except that through consolidation and large stakes in public corporations, the same elite few are culling the power in American business.The problem now isn't one large corporation controlling the market, its the same group of board members who sit and appoint each other while they move their agenda.

ImperialxRat 02-06-2008 07:59 PM

I agree that affirmative action was definitely necessary in the past. Minority's in general had to enter into the working world (other than low end jobs)... female, black, emigrant, etc.

I think that we as a nation are more than capable of understanding that an individual is what defines the roles that they play.

Of course, I am from Southern California... and where I grew up is probably the least racist / prejudice area that I have ever visited / traveled to. I have friend from all nationalities and backgrounds, and I love it.

And, I've been drinking...

More to follow tomorrow

N2rotation 02-07-2008 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Tuckster (Post 315316)
Why is it that alot of the Delta Connection guys (Freedom) are somewhat happy....I mean very few at a regional are truly happy but with all the Mesa bashing, I can't understand why the Freedom guys seem to be at least content. Are they treated differently from United Express or USAirways Express ??

Yes the United and USAirways sides of the operation are scrappier than Delta. Mesa staffs Delta better because they don't want to lose them. Why? Because they are the only major they haven't toasted their relationship with. Less junior assignments and crap on the Delta side, but it still sucks I am sure.

Prediction: lose more United flying, shift airplanes to China.

boycot mesa.


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