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SharkAir 01-31-2008 06:58 PM

Well, you know, Thunderbird pilots are getting turned down all over the place because they have nothing but single engine day VFR time.

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 06:58 PM

For once, I actually agree with iahflyr that the multi-requirement becomes nothing more than a box to check at 100 hrs. I have a hard time believing that the learning plateaus any higher than 50 hours or so (for most applicants, of course!)...

threegreen 01-31-2008 07:01 PM

WAVIT, i agree to a certain point. But more speed is not always the case, take a look for example at a SR20 compare to a seminole, basically same speeds.

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by SharkAir (Post 311771)
Well, you know, Thunderbird pilots are getting turned down all over the place because they have nothing but single engine day VFR time.


LOL. Yeah, sorry Mr. Thunderbird pilot. You have not proven you can fly a complex multi engine Seminole yet. NO JOB FOR YOU!

WAVIT Inbound 01-31-2008 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by threegreen (Post 311774)
WAVIT, i agree to a certain point. But more speed is not always the case, take a look for example at a SR20 compare to a seminole, basically same speeds.


I'm not saying I disagree with that fact. That's what I was saying, there are some singles with more power than light twins. I just think this was one of the airlines reasons for having the requirement.

threegreen 01-31-2008 07:06 PM

yep you are rt, no argument there...

ExperimentalAB 01-31-2008 07:07 PM

It's funny that during my ATP Instructor Standardization (for those in the know, the "Rich" ride), I was ripped to pieces for not slowing the Seminole down to 100 KIAS 15 nm out...I was told that anything more is way too fast for the students...:rolleyes:

You can sure as hell bet that I wasn't teaching my students junk like that.

ANPBird 01-31-2008 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by otter (Post 311702)
This is why I still wonder if there is something (growth) coming? Do we really need more people this bad? There are no red arrows in SLC this month.

Then send your extras to California if your talking about the BRO! I have only seen one day with no red arrows since SkidPlus+ started for us in FAT. Not even with 11 reserves (17%) FO's give us any flexibility. I say put all the new hires in the EMB's to beef us up a bit. They are not moving many of us to the jet because there are plenty of CRJ FO's sitting around and nobody to replace us BRO guys. I will be lucky to get a transition award after being here 14 months. Enough moaning from me now! Good night from the SkyWest motherland.

Timmay 01-31-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by ANPBird (Post 311819)
Then send your extras to California if your talking about the BRO! I have only seen one day with no red arrows since SkidPlus+ started for us in FAT. Not even with 11 reserves (17%) FO's give us any flexibility. I say put all the new hires in the EMB's to beef us up a bit. They are not moving many of us to the jet because there are plenty of CRJ FO's sitting around and nobody to replace us BRO guys. I will be lucky to get a transition award after being here 14 months. Enough moaning from me now! Good night from the SkyWest motherland.

Yeah, no joke. To be brutally honest, there WAS a day with a red arrow back in late December. It just so happened that I had a local that I wanted dropped, and voila! It was a magical day.

ANPBird 01-31-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Timmay (Post 311828)
Yeah, no joke. To be brutally honest, there WAS a day with a red arrow back in late December. It just so happened that I had a local that I wanted dropped, and voila! It was a magical day.

I stand corrected then! Two whole days with no red arrows! I was probably off that day so I missed it. Congrats my friend!


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