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cl601pilot 02-04-2008 08:40 PM

Well thats what flying public gets for pushing for all those 49 and 59 dollar fares to be flown 1/2 way across the country. Besides who cares what the flying public thinks anyways. Its not like they are going to not travel because of this information coming to light.

200MSPCRJ 02-04-2008 08:54 PM

It kept comparing who you would want a new surgeon out of school or an old pro. Well at least in aviation you kinda get both. Most airlines wont fly green on green lines so atleast if there is a new guy learning the Captain has the flight covered for the most part. I'm sure a new surgeon gets to try out a few jobs with the more experienced surgeon watching over him. Everyone needs a start and the minimums are set low to pick up tons of cheap pilots right now. Hopefully with a crew of two, most minor mistakes can be corrected.

meeko031 02-04-2008 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by getrichflytryin (Post 314168)
well you don't pay cut-throat rates for the "most experianced surgeon".


Will raising pay entice more "experience" pilots to apply to regionals? Why would people that are "experience" want to leave their current gig and start at the bottom only to deal with the bs schedules(reserve)....

nicholasblonde 02-05-2008 12:03 AM

Evidenced by the job market, it seems like QOL/work rules/company outlook/bigger aircraft seem to outweigh payscales...companies like RAH and Skywest have plenty of 121 guys willing to jump ship on their current employer, but they don't necessarily have the best pay or upgrade times. If it was only about pay, ASA and Eagle would have no trouble finding pilots. If it was only about upgrade, Pinnacle and Mesa would be sticking to their 1000 hrs TT....but the only places out there requiring 1000 hrs+ still are RAH and Skywest, I think mostly b/c of QOL and because there are several guys who illogically chase the EJet and the 900, even though it will probably delay their career progression for a number of reasons.

POPA 02-05-2008 04:39 AM

My two favorite quotes:

The FAA’s minimum historically is for a pilot to have 2,000 to 2,500 hours in order to apply for a job flying for a carrier.

I was unaware that the FAA set hiring minimums.

Big Sky requires 450 hours and is partnered with Delta.

When that article was published, Big Sky was no longer operating. I guess reporting the news is kind of like reporting the weather: you don't actually have to know what you're doing!

BoilerUP 02-05-2008 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by nicholasblonde (Post 314302)
Evidenced by the job market, it seems like QOL/work rules/company outlook/bigger aircraft seem to outweigh payscales...companies like RAH and Skywest have plenty of 121 guys willing to jump ship on their current employer, but they don't necessarily have the best pay or upgrade times. If it was only about pay, ASA and Eagle would have no trouble finding pilots. If it was only about upgrade, Pinnacle and Mesa would be sticking to their 1000 hrs TT....but the only places out there requiring 1000 hrs+ still are RAH and Skywest, I think mostly b/c of QOL and because there are several guys who illogically chase the EJet and the 900, even though it will probably delay their career progression for a number of reasons.

Not entirely accurate the facts in this post are.

groovinaviator 02-05-2008 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by the King (Post 314239)
I just love the quoted Pinnacle mins. 1000 hours? Where did they get that number from?

Haha i know... what a joke! There was a chick with 300 hundred ours in my new hire class at AWAC and she washed out after 80 hours of OE! Pinnacle offered here a job the next day! They are bottom of the barrel.

Zach 02-05-2008 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by groovinaviator (Post 314399)
Haha i know... what a joke! There was a chick with 300 hundred ours in my new hire class at AWAC and she washed out after 80 hours of OE! Pinnacle offered here a job the next day! They are bottom of the barrel.

How the heck do you make it that far, need 80hrs of IOE, and then wash out?

withthatsaid182 02-05-2008 07:00 AM

with all this hiring going on is AWAC doing any serious hiring right now??

ridejumpfly 02-05-2008 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 314193)
Bust an altitude, slide off a runway, or even land on the wrong runway (all pitfalls of inexperience)

Historically these types of incidents/accidents rarely related to inexperience.

In all my years of ATC I have had the most problems with majors.. Especially wrong entry to holding patterns.. "George" can't be blamed everytime.


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