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Koolaidman 02-14-2008 07:38 PM

Another regional rumor...
 
A CA from Trans States told me that they are getting 14 ERJ's on the United side from Mesa. If you haven't heard, SkyWest has no plans to hire or upgrade in April, May or June. I think we have classes in March, but none in the months previously mentioned. I wonder if we bid on this and didn't get it?

ExperimentalAB 02-14-2008 07:44 PM

No, I doubt we were ever involved. Different aircraft type, new-base, and just a few lousy Mesa birds...no way. Jerry's waiting for the big fish to come along.

reevesofskyking 02-14-2008 08:33 PM

I really doubt any more airplanes than 4

That is what my favorite mx guy told me today, and to date, he has never lied to me about a single rumor that I have heard.

He claims the are in bna and almost ready to head to stl

and if I remember right, he never said they were from mesa.

I do know he said 4 planes

paxhauler85 02-14-2008 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by reevesofskyking (Post 320749)
I really doubt any more airplanes than 4

That is what my favorite mx guy told me today, and to date, he has never lied to me about a single rumor that I have heard.

He claims the are in bna and almost ready to head to stl

and if I remember right, he never said they were from mesa.

I do know he said 4 planes

Thats the number of UA 145's we have.

Only domecile was IAD, 15ish guys in each seat.

Paok 02-15-2008 05:30 AM

I hope thats not the case for Skywest, my friend just made a lateral move there, that would be ashame if they stopped hiring....stuck at the bottom... like another person i know who made a grass is greener move to XJET to get california and a line, yet got new york (again) and more reserve since they are not hiring.... that is like the worst possibly scenario I can think of

Blkflyer 02-15-2008 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 320855)
I hope thats not the case for Skywest, my friend just made a lateral move there, that would be ashame if they stopped hiring....stuck at the bottom... like another person i know who made a grass is greener move to XJET to get california and a line, yet got new york (again) and more reserve since they are not hiring.... that is like the worst possibly scenario I can think of

Which is why Regional Contracts need to be better than they are and One should NEVER CHASE and UPGRADE...

KiloAlpha 02-15-2008 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 321076)
One should NEVER CHASE and UPGRADE...

So I should not chase and secondly I should not upgrade? :p

blastoff 02-15-2008 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 321081)
So I should not chase and secondly I should not upgrade? :p

Unless you're at Eagle

CptRyn 02-15-2008 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 321076)
Which is why Regional Contracts need to be better than they are and One should NEVER CHASE and UPGRADE...

I won't mention any airline name, but I've heard it from many people and even a few people that are at this airline that is not named....
but this will never happen as another airline will come in and undercut what another airline is trying to do. The mainline squeezes too much and knows that it can find another airline to do it cheaper.
Case in point... a certain airline was on strike to improve wages and benefits when another airline's management went to the pilot group, and told them that if they were to take a cut and agree to the contract, they would be able to take some flying from the airline that was on strike... and guess what, they did. Like I said, not mentioning any names. Disclaimer... I wasn't at either airline at the time this happened and if it is more to the story, I don't know, but like I said, heard it from many sources, even those that work at both sources...

paxhauler85 02-15-2008 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by CptRyn (Post 321119)
I won't mention any airline name, but I've heard it from many people and even a few people that are at this airline that is not named....
but this will never happen as another airline will come in and undercut what another airline is trying to do. The mainline squeezes too much and knows that it can find another airline to do it cheaper.
Case in point... a certain airline was on strike to improve wages and benefits when another airline's management went to the pilot group, and told them that if they were to take a cut and agree to the contract, they would be able to take some flying from the airline that was on strike... and guess what, they did. Like I said, not mentioning any names. Disclaimer... I wasn't at either airline at the time this happened and if it is more to the story, I don't know, but like I said, heard it from many sources, even those that work at both sources...

I just went crosseyed. Anyone else think this made zero sense?

Try again, so that someone could somehow respond to you.

CptRyn 02-15-2008 02:39 PM

and what cracks me up, is that people from the "scab" airline talk about how pilots of another group need to come together and demand better pay and rules.

CptRyn 02-15-2008 02:40 PM

Sorry if that didn't make sense, did in my head for some reason, could be all the drinks. Just saying that regional pay/rules won't get better because there will always be another airline that will do it for cheaper, and pilots of that airline will go along with it to secure more flying...

CptRyn 02-15-2008 02:41 PM

and yes I know it's only 6:40, but you gotta do it when you can I guess...

CptRyn 02-15-2008 02:41 PM

drinking that is.

flynavyj 02-15-2008 02:48 PM

could also learn to simply edit your posts instead of making new ones drunk guy....Doubt to see 14 airplanes at TSA, we've got a couple coming, but not much. And i'd hope skywest wasn't as dumb as TSA was when we thought we had continental flying, only to lose it to chautauqua, and get the joy of furloughs as a result, hopefully they weren't ramping up over there for the same reason, and i'd find it doubtful.

As far as lateral moves go, if living in your domicile is your reason, then ok, whatever. It'd have made more sense to simply find another route to get to the airline that was where you wanted to live however as opposed to making a jump, but when a person's ultimate goals is to get out of the regionals, jumping from company to company, chasing some magical combination of "perfect" isn't the smartest move, if you by luck and chance end up having to make a move, and end up somewhere better, totally understandable, but it doesn't make much sense to me otherwise.

Blkflyer 02-15-2008 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by KiloAlpha (Post 321081)
So I should not chase and secondly I should not upgrade? :p

Hey if you have the time and resources to run from regional to regional to chase an upgrade then more power to you...

Seattlecfi 02-15-2008 05:20 PM

The whole career is about taking risks. If you are not willing to take a risk, you need to accept where you are and be happy with it. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.

I left what I thought was a great company flying great schedules to upgrade quicker. I left after 1.5 yrs, and not long after I was hired, the hiring stopped. Upgrades quit and everthing stagnated, but luckily not for very long. I still upgraded at a year, and have been a captain for almost a 1.5 years, and have a class date at a legacy.

I fly with a lot of F/O's who won't upgrade when they first can, because of QOL or they don't want to fly a turbo-prop. My advice to them is always the same. Position yourself where you want to be when the music stops. If QOL at this point in your career is what you want, that is great. If you want to move onto bigger and better, do what you can to upgrade, even if it is a turbo-prop.

rickair7777 02-16-2008 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by CptRyn (Post 321122)
and what cracks me up, is that people from the "scab" airline talk about how pilots of another group need to come together and demand better pay and rules.

Sorry, which "scab" airline are you refering to? I'm having trouble following your line here.

Blkflyer 02-16-2008 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 321412)
Sorry, which "scab" airline are you refering to? I'm having trouble following your line here.

Rick I thinks he was under the influence when he wrote that line.. I am having a hard time understanding that too

CptRyn 02-16-2008 07:43 AM

haha, yeah, forget i said anything.

Paok 02-16-2008 12:02 PM

ryan your an idiot bahaha

145Driver 02-16-2008 12:37 PM



Originally Posted by KiloAlpha http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
So I should not chase and secondly I should not upgrade? :p

Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 321188)
Hey if you have the time and resources to run from regional to regional to chase an upgrade then more power to you...

Dude, he was making fun of a typo in that post, not being serious...


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