Coming straight out of college versus flight instructing for a while before Regionals
02-20-2008, 03:54 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Brendan
Thanks. I'm within 2 hours drive of Chicago and Indianapolis so I'm thinking that might open up some more opportunities when I go looking.
Anyway, I've been thinking about what to do after graduation as well. For anybody that went straight to the regionals, do you have any regrets? Not necessarily specifics to your airline, but whether you wish you would have done something else first. I think I'm about 50/50 at this point (regional vs. instructing). I have a strong connection with my school and fraternity and don't know if I'll be ready to leave that after graduation.
Anyway, I've been thinking about what to do after graduation as well. For anybody that went straight to the regionals, do you have any regrets? Not necessarily specifics to your airline, but whether you wish you would have done something else first. I think I'm about 50/50 at this point (regional vs. instructing). I have a strong connection with my school and fraternity and don't know if I'll be ready to leave that after graduation.
As for going straight to the regionals, I spent a year after graduating flying checks and instructing for a 141 school. No regrets! But I'd never go back to flying checks...
02-20-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerWings
Boiler up! Unfortunately, there isn't a whole lot going on near Purdue (if that really is where you are...)
As for going straight to the regionals, I spent a year after graduating flying checks and instructing for a 141 school. No regrets! But I'd never go back to flying checks...
As for going straight to the regionals, I spent a year after graduating flying checks and instructing for a 141 school. No regrets! But I'd never go back to flying checks...
Instructing is the most enjoyable flying I have done (besides the King Air time, course!) and I think doing it full time for a year after graduation would be great experience.
BoilerWings, any advice about whether to stay in the Lafayette area to instruct?
02-20-2008, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan
BTFU! It's funny you mention flying checks, because in our transport ops class last week (still Don Petrin, btw) the recruiting director from AirNet came and talked to us about their pilot openings. Interesting gig, don't think it's for me though.
Instructing is the most enjoyable flying I have done (besides the King Air time, course!) and I think doing it full time for a year after graduation would be great experience.
BoilerWings, any advice about whether to stay in the Lafayette area to instruct?
Instructing is the most enjoyable flying I have done (besides the King Air time, course!) and I think doing it full time for a year after graduation would be great experience.
BoilerWings, any advice about whether to stay in the Lafayette area to instruct?
LG has even been known to help people get some additional multi-time if you're a few hours short of an airline's minimums.
To be totally honest, if I ever get layed off or chose to leave the airlines, Purdue would be the first place I'd look to teach. Purdue beats flying checks and 141 instructing hands down! Although, I learned more about flying from 6mo of check flying than in my first 500hrs of flying.
02-21-2008, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by meeko031
working for the regionals out of college will hurt you in the long run.(if applying with no 500pic) without atp mins, you will not be able to upgrade...at all. you will build all that flying time in the right seat with no future of upgrading, right?
Sec. 61.159 Aeronautical experience: Airplane Category rating.
(a) A person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category and class rating must have at least 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:
(1) 500 hours of cross-country flight time.
(2) 100 hours of night flight time.
(3) 75 hours of instrument flight time, in actual or simulated instrument conditions:
(i) An applicant may not receive credit for more than a total of 25 hours of simulated instrument time in a flight simulator or flight training device.
(ii) A maximum of 50 hours of training in a flight simulator or flight training device may be credited toward the instrument flight time requirements of paragraph (a)(3) if the training was accomplished in a course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties and functions of a pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command or any combination thereof, which includes at least:
(i) 100 hours of cross-country flight time ; and
(ii) 25 hours of night flight time.
(5) Not more than 100 hours of the total aeronautical experience requirements of paragraph (a) of this section may be obtained in a flight simulator or flight training device that represents an airplane, provided this aeronautical experience was obtained in an approved course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
(2) 100 hours of night flight time.
(3) 75 hours of instrument flight time, in actual or simulated instrument conditions:
(i) An applicant may not receive credit for more than a total of 25 hours of simulated instrument time in a flight simulator or flight training device.
(ii) A maximum of 50 hours of training in a flight simulator or flight training device may be credited toward the instrument flight time requirements of paragraph (a)(3) if the training was accomplished in a course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties and functions of a pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command or any combination thereof, which includes at least:
(i) 100 hours of cross-country flight time ; and
(ii) 25 hours of night flight time.
(5) Not more than 100 hours of the total aeronautical experience requirements of paragraph (a) of this section may be obtained in a flight simulator or flight training device that represents an airplane, provided this aeronautical experience was obtained in an approved course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
02-21-2008, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Brendan
I'm a junior in college and instruct, but I still would like more hours before I graduate. If you don't mind me asking, where were you able to find a charter job that you could fly for during school?
thats my story...best of luck to you
02-21-2008, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Palm
Sec. 61.159 Aeronautical experience: Airplane Category rating.
(a) A person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category and class rating must have at least 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:
(a) A person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category and class rating must have at least 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:
(1) 500 hours of cross-country flight time.
(2) 100 hours of night flight time.
(3) 75 hours of instrument flight time, in actual or simulated instrument conditions:
(i) An applicant may not receive credit for more than a total of 25 hours of simulated instrument time in a flight simulator or flight training device.
(ii) A maximum of 50 hours of training in a flight simulator or flight training device may be credited toward the instrument flight time requirements of paragraph (a)(3) if the training was accomplished in a course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties and functions of a pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command or any combination thereof, which includes at least:
(i) 100 hours of cross-country flight time ; and
(ii) 25 hours of night flight time.
(5) Not more than 100 hours of the total aeronautical experience requirements of paragraph (a) of this section may be obtained in a flight simulator or flight training device that represents an airplane, provided this aeronautical experience was obtained in an approved course conducted by a training center certificated under part 142.
02-22-2008, 04:38 AM
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I went to Purdue and got the B.S. in Aviation. In that time I:
And anybody that knows me would tell you passionately that I'm not any smarter or better pilot than anybody else!
Have fun while in college, but stay focused and bust your ass and you won't HAVE to build flight time after graduation because you did it while in school.
I attended out of state so I paid more tuition that way, but thankfully Uncle Sam and my parents helped lessen the financial blow for me. I wouldn't trade my educational experience in WL for anything, including a lower Sallie Mae payment.
Just my experience, your mileage may vary...but one path is no better or worse than another, just different.
- Got every rating from PPL to CFII in my first two years, while in AFROTC for my first three semesters and training for a half-marathon with 21 credit hours in the fourth
- Instructed full time summers after both my sophomore and junior year
- Instructed part-time at Purdue my junior and senior years
- Flew the university King Airs, then got selected for the Beechjet program
- Interned part-time one of those summers I was full-time instructing with Chautauqua in Indy
- Flew Bob Rohrman around a little bit
- Instructed at FKR a little bit
- Worked as many as 3 part-time jobs (two instructing) at once my junior year while taking 18 credit hours
- Did a one year co-op with UPS in Louisville
- Flight instructed while working full-time for UPS
- Gained my MEI at Lafayette Aviation
- Did the Flight Team thing for three years
- Met my wife
- Drank lots of beer at Jake's and the Cactus
- Graduated Dec 05 after 9 semesters (due to the co-op) with 1050/100/60 turbine, four job offers, and a 3.8 GPA.
- Started at AWAC three weeks after graduation.
And anybody that knows me would tell you passionately that I'm not any smarter or better pilot than anybody else!
Have fun while in college, but stay focused and bust your ass and you won't HAVE to build flight time after graduation because you did it while in school.I attended out of state so I paid more tuition that way, but thankfully Uncle Sam and my parents helped lessen the financial blow for me. I wouldn't trade my educational experience in WL for anything, including a lower Sallie Mae payment.
Just my experience, your mileage may vary...but one path is no better or worse than another, just different.
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