Really? Theres a skinny end to the epaulets that matches the skinny end on the shirt. Pretty freaking idiot proof and you deserve to be called an idiot for putting on your uniform without looking in the mirror for 5 seconds. Seriously, everyone had to go to hell and back to get a 121 job and then you're going to go in public without any consideration for your uniform and embarrass the whole pilot group...

(not you but the guy you're defending)

I agree with the ironing, but starching your shirts, while it looks good, turns the collars yellow after a while. I iron the crap out them, but stopped using starch both at home and the cleaners.

Ive had some luck with bleach but time will tell after a year or so if they are still holding strong. I may just go to the old military wire collar stays that I had to keep the collar looking correct.

The only reason I use the starch anyway is the openings in the collars where they tend to droop at the top of the neck and not have that crisp look.

Yeah, mesa has the worst uniform standards. Actually, just delete the "uniform" part :rolleyes:

Starch doesn't hold up well after you sit in your seat and sweat for a while, so I don't bother any more. 100% cotton and starch works better in an office environment. The cotton/poly shirts hold up reasonably well once ironed.

The cotton/poly pilot shirts will turn yellow eventually...they'll last much longer if you dry on medium heat and iron on the lowest setting that will give you steam. Starch will hastend their demise.

Ring-around-the collar can be beat by applying stain remover to ther collar every wash. Or you can just rub in some detergent.

Whats wrong with a backpack?? And I didnt know I had to buy one that matched my uniform?? Should my bag and flight case be the same navy blue colored also? Maybe I could go the extra mile and buy a new car in navy blue too, hmmm but then I would have to wash and wax it everyday to keep up appearances so i guess not...

...that said I do agree with a Professional Look. I flew GoJets the other day and the FAs looked horrible, I was embarrassed for them. However, they were on the last leg of a four day and I know I never look as good going home as I did when I left for work. I like to have a good look when I fly (except the hat...never looks right on a female...) so I have my uniform pressed at the cleaners between trips and I take enough shirts to wear a clean one everyday (if I wanted to wear the same shirt the entire week I would fly 135 cargo) but sometimes things happen and you couldnt get your shirt ironed out on that (less than) 8 hour overnight. There is no excuse for continuos sloppiness but I can see excusing the "bad dress day" on occasion.

Also, Ipods...dont need to have them shoved in while on the a/c and personally I dont like to wear them in the term if I am just changing a/c. But IMO if you have a 4hr sit and you are just walking around the term they are ok, but thats just me.

Skip the phone calls on the walk around, never know when there might be a Fed watching you through the glass wondering how much attention you're really paying to looking at the plane

Agreed.
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back packs make pilots look very unprofessional

there are several other words that i could replace unprofessional with

what would you suggest then? how 'bout those FFDOs backpacks? Unprofessional?