Quick questions for the B1900 pilots
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Quick questions for the B1900 pilots
What is the operating expense of a Beech1900? I am trying to see what it costs to run the plane per hour (every single expense, from fuel to maintenance anything that average person does not know about)
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Try www.aviationresearch.com
I believe the break even is around 8 seats occupied. Its definitly one of the lowest.
I believe the break even is around 8 seats occupied. Its definitly one of the lowest.
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Originally Posted by edik
What is the operating expense of a Beech1900? I am trying to see what it costs to run the plane per hour (every single expense, from fuel to maintenance anything that average person does not know about)
e. No way to tell from the information provided.
To arrive at a true operating expense, you'll need to consider ALL costs:
Acquisition Cost
Cost of Debt (before and after any tax benefit)
Cost of energy (fuel)
Cost of Labor (pilot, FA, maint)
Maint. Budget
Ground handling expense
Landing fees for the airport where you operate
Hangar fees/Ramp fees
Insurance
And many more......
Each operator's mileage will vary based on the ability to spread costs across a larger network, or not. The cost of Labor contracts, Fuel Hedges, fixed vs. variable cost maint. programs, etc., etc. etc......
If your writing a business plan, you'll need to go into much greater detail than what I've outlined here. If you want an easy answer: probably a CASM between $.03 - $.06.
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Originally Posted by edik
What is the operating expense of a Beech1900? I am trying to see what it costs to run the plane per hour (every single expense, from fuel to maintenance anything that average person does not know about)
My airline consistently looses it @ss operating 1900's, and that's subsidized by the US Govt. for essential air services (EAS). As I understand, we are only doing it to keep a revenue stream going while we pay off the mortgages. We're getting rid of them as fast as we can. Sorry I can't provide more details
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
My airline consistently looses it @ss operating 1900's, and that's subsidized by the US Govt. for essential air services (EAS). As I understand, we are only doing it to keep a revenue stream going while we pay off the mortgages. We're getting rid of them as fast as we can. Sorry I can't provide more details
Do you fly for ACE out of ANC?
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Originally Posted by Jesrober
When I was researching it I had stummbled across a website that said it costed about $390 per flight hour. Not sure how much that changes with fuel prices. I can't find the website anymore, I hope that info helps.
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Total cost per ASM is probably at least $.13-.15 per ASM due to the poor economies of scale. LCC 737/A-320's run about $.075/ASM and CL-200 50 seat RJ's about $.11/ASM.
Conklin deDecker (Industry datasource) lists the DOC of a corporate 1900 at $665/Hr. (2003). DOC (Direct Operating Cost) includes fuel and maintenance. Add in about $150-200/hr. for reserves. An airline should beat this as they get bulk pricing on fuel, parts, and mx and tend to pay their employees peanuts. However, 121 compliance costs more than Part. 91 and is a major reason 1900's are disappearing from the airline scene. (Your government making the world safer by forcing millions of passenger miles onto the roads where one is over 100x more likely to die....)
You can search for a full Conklin report for purchase @ controller.com
With lots of 1900's getting parked the lease rates should be attractive.
Conklin deDecker (Industry datasource) lists the DOC of a corporate 1900 at $665/Hr. (2003). DOC (Direct Operating Cost) includes fuel and maintenance. Add in about $150-200/hr. for reserves. An airline should beat this as they get bulk pricing on fuel, parts, and mx and tend to pay their employees peanuts. However, 121 compliance costs more than Part. 91 and is a major reason 1900's are disappearing from the airline scene. (Your government making the world safer by forcing millions of passenger miles onto the roads where one is over 100x more likely to die....)
You can search for a full Conklin report for purchase @ controller.com
With lots of 1900's getting parked the lease rates should be attractive.
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